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Re: A Particle Model of Light

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: A Particle Model of Light
Date 2015-09-06 22:48 +0200
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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Anton Shepelev wrote:

> John Heath:
>> Name one person who measured the speed of light in
>> a vacuum and found it not to be c.
> 
> Eugene Shtyrkov claims to have done so in his "Ether
> Drift in Experiments with Geostationary Satellites":
> 
>    http://bourabai.kz/shtyrkov/shtyrkov.pdf

Have you read this? 

The abstract starts with:

“The ether drift due to motion of the Earth has been discovered in the 
process of tracking of a geostationary satellite. […]”

And the paper starts as follows:

“Introduction

In earlier, and unsuccessful, attempts to detect motion of the Earth, the 
issue of entrainment of the luminiferous medium (ether) by moving bodies was 
not properly taken into account.  Ether was supposed to pass freely through 
any body, and through the Earth itself, and it was assumed that the velocity 
of ether drift is equal and opposite in direction to that of the Earth. […]”

See also: 
<https://books.google.com/books?id=KnzBDjnGIgYC&pg=PA1113&lpg=PA1113&dq=Observation+of+Ether+Drift+in+Experiments+with+Geostationary+Satellites&source=bl&ots=7RrohYLsDG&sig=_pVlG3YyVGVKazPto1w2b3GRPqg&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAmoVChMInYPFsJzjxwIVQ1wUCh09twMQ#v=onepage&q=Observation%20of%20Ether%20Drift%20in%20Experiments%20with%20Geostationary%20Satellites&f=false>

It should not be too surprising that someone who believes in the existence 
of a luminiferous ether, despite the many experiments in the past 195 years 
that *all* yielded a null result [1], and who denies relativistic redshift, 
despite its usefulness in astrophysics and cosmology [2], claims to have 
observed a different speed of light as well.  Given the only *two* 
references of that paper (of 1926 and 1929, respectively), I blame 
dysfunctional brain cells due to prolonged exposure to Siberian climate. 

Almost needless to say that this 2005 paper, of the “Proceedings of the NPA” 
(Natural Philosophy Alliance, “a group that believes mainstream physics and 
cosmology are wrong”¹), Vol. 2, No. 1, apparently has never passed any peer 
review of any scientific journal to be taken seriously, if it has even been 
submitted to one.

So perhaps the challenge should be reworded into “Name one person who does 
not believe in the existence of a luminiferous ether and measured the speed 
of light in a vacuum and found it to be not c.”  Or something similar.


PointedEars
___________
¹  <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPA>, “Organizations”
   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_science_organizations#Natural_Philosophy_Alliance>
   “an organization that advocates the position that some ideas thought
    well-settled in contemporary science (particularly physics and
    cosmology) are fundamentally flawed” (substantiated by the reference,
   <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fringe_science_organizations#cite_note-web-9>)

[1] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether#Negative_aether-drift_experiments>
[2] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redshift>

-- 
Q: Where are offenders sentenced for light crimes?  
A: To a prism.

(from: WolframAlpha)

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A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 03:55 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-03 12:32 +0200
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 08:15 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-03 19:38 +0200
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 15:06 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-03 04:18 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 08:30 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 15:16 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-03 14:29 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 13:24 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-05 07:04 +1000
  Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 15:52 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-05 19:02 +1000
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-05 10:43 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-05 18:23 +0200
      Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 19:11 -0700
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-05 21:38 -0500
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-06 18:48 +1000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-06 13:05 +0200
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-06 10:54 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:10 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-07 13:28 +0200
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 09:19 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:13 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 15:49 -0700
          Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 09:26 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:14 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 15:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-08 06:34 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-09 10:31 -0700
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0300
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-06 22:48 +0200
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-06 22:52 +0200
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:19 +1000
            Re: A Particle Model of Light antonius@freeshell.de (Anton Shepelev) - 2015-09-07 00:59 +0000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 19:42 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light antonius@freeshell.de (Anton Shepelev) - 2015-09-11 22:03 +0000
              Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 23:14 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 15:39 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 09:14 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 20:42 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 12:38 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 23:48 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 16:29 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-13 16:41 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 23:54 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 08:15 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 22:07 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-14 16:16 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 16:16 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:07 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 04:16 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:43 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-14 12:01 -0700
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-18 07:18 +0200
          Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-20 12:37 -0500
            Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-20 14:09 -0700
              Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-20 17:34 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 06:40 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-22 19:14 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-23 09:17 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 09:39 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-24 17:38 +0200
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-24 10:54 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 11:36 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-24 11:54 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 15:45 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 09:15 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:19 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:25 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:28 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 10:27 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 03:39 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-05 11:17 -0400
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 19:25 -0500
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-13 08:01 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-19 13:21 -0500
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-19 23:44 -0500
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-20 04:34 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-20 15:25 -0500
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-21 12:02 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-21 17:37 +0000
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-21 22:17 -0500
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-22 08:18 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-22 09:07 -0500
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-26 09:06 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-26 12:14 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-29 11:41 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 10:27 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 21:11 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 13:35 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-29 23:23 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-26 21:31 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-09-27 08:37 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:14 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 01:41 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-09-29 08:11 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 18:53 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-29 10:24 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:13 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-03 08:13 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-02 17:07 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-29 13:41 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:43 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-30 11:28 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-30 08:34 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-03 07:51 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-03 14:22 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-05 04:32 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-05 10:00 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-05 19:58 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-05 19:35 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-06 04:39 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-06 10:38 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-06 02:15 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 08:01 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-06 14:16 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-09 08:16 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 20:50 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-11 08:11 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 14:44 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-12 07:51 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 17:12 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-12 11:47 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-13 08:01 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-13 19:39 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <HG@nowhere.com> - 2015-10-13 21:36 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-14 10:26 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 02:10 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-15 09:18 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 15:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 22:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-15 20:15 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 07:36 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-07 08:56 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 07:47 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-06 04:50 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 14:17 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-06 14:55 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-05 21:02 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 07:51 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 08:15 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-06 06:26 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 07:53 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 11:26 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 13:58 -0500
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                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 13:51 -0700
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