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Re: A Particle Model of Light

From antonius@freeshell.de (Anton Shepelev)
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: A Particle Model of Light
Date 2015-09-07 00:59 +0000
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn to Anton Shepelev:

> > John Heath:
> >
> > > Name  one  person  who  measured  the speed of
> > > light in a vacuum and found it not to be c.
> >
> > Eugene Shtyrkov claims to have done  so  in  his
> > "Ether  Drift  in Experiments with Geostationary
> > Satellites":
> >
> >     http://bourabai.kz/shtyrkov/shtyrkov.pdf
> >
> Have you read this?

I have, though I misdoubt me that you have read any-
thing beyond the introduction, have you?

> The abstract starts with:
>
>   The  ether  drift due to motion of the Earth has
>   been discovered in the process of tracking of  a
>   geostationary satellite. [???]???
>
> And the paper starts as follows:
>
>   In earlier, and unsuccessful, attempts to detect
>   motion of the Earth, the issue of entrainment of
>   the luminiferous medium (ether) by moving bodies
>   was not properly taken into account.  Ether  was
>   supposed  to  pass  freely through any body, and
>   through the Earth itself,  and  it  was  assumed
>   that  the  velocity  of ether drift is equal and
>   opposite in direction to that of the Earth. [???]???
>
> It should not be too surprising that  someone  who
> believes in the existence of a luminiferous ether,
> despite the many experiments in the past 195 years
> that *all* yielded a null result[1] ->

This is a misinformation for those who never care to
read the original papers.  Dayton Miller consistent-
ly  observed  a  small  effect, unconnected with any
earthly factors but well-correlated with the orbital
motion of the Earth:

http://ether-wind.narod.ru/Miller_1933/Miller1933_ocr.pdf

See  mr.  Miller's address at the Mt. Wilson confer-
ence for details on the hardware and the procedure:

http://ether-wind.narod.ru/Conference_1927/Conference_1927.pdf

If you will carefully read just these two  documents
you shall see that the "null result" is a falsifica-
tion and that Shankland's analysis fails to  explain
Miller's positive result.  They also tell why numer-
ous other repetitions failed.

There are  other  positive  ether-wind  experiments,
which no one to my knowledge has refuted.

> -> and  who  denies relativistic redshift, despite
> its  usefulness  in  astrophysics   and   cosmolo-
> gy[2], ->

Redshift  is  accounted in all ether theories mostly
through photons' loss of enery as they  move  though
viscous  either.  Since gravitation is thought to be
caused by either a pressure or a density gradient in
the  ether,  gravitational  redshift and lensing are
also explainable.

> -> claims to have observed a  different  speed  of
> light as well.  Given the only *two* references of
> that paper (of 1926  and  1929,  respectively),  I
> blame  dysfunctional  brain cells due to prolonged
> exposure to Siberian climate.

So you have read the  introduction  and  the  refer-
ences, skipping that optional part in between?

> Almost  needless  to  say that this 2005 paper, of
> the ???Proceedings of the NPA???  (Natural  Philosophy
> Alliance,   ???a   group  that  believes  mainstream
> physics and cosmology are wrong?????), Vol. 2, No. 1,
> apparently has never passed any peer review of any
> scientific journal to be taken  seriously,  if  it
> has even been submitted to one.

That  is  an  appeal to authority -- a very unscien-
tistly sort of conduct, especially if  one  has  not
read  the  content  of the paper one so fiercely at-
tacks.

> So perhaps the challenge should be  reworded  into
> ???Name one person who does not believe in the exis-
> tence of a luminiferous  ether  and  measured  the
> speed  of light in a vacuum and found it to be not
> c.???  Or something similar.

Useless question, for absolute motion is  incompati-
ble  a  lack  of  the  ether.   This is why Einstein
wrote:

  I believe that I have really found  the  relation-
  ship between gravitation and electricity, assuming
  that the Miller experiments are based on a  funda-
  mental error. Otherwise, the whole relativity the-
  ory collapses like a house of cards.

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A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 03:55 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-03 12:32 +0200
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 08:15 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-03 19:38 +0200
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 15:06 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light underante <underante@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-03 04:18 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 08:30 -0500
  Re: A Particle Model of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-03 07:08 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-03 15:16 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2015-09-03 14:29 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-03 13:24 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-05 07:04 +1000
  Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 15:52 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-05 19:02 +1000
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-05 10:43 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-05 18:23 +0200
      Re: A Particle Model of Light John Heath <heathjohn2@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 19:11 -0700
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-05 21:38 -0500
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-06 18:48 +1000
          Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-06 13:05 +0200
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-06 10:54 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:10 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-09-07 13:28 +0200
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 09:19 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:13 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 15:49 -0700
          Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-06 09:26 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:14 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 15:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-08 06:34 +1000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-09 10:31 -0700
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 14:54 +0300
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-06 22:48 +0200
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-06 22:52 +0200
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson DSc. <hw@....> - 2015-09-07 08:19 +1000
            Re: A Particle Model of Light antonius@freeshell.de (Anton Shepelev) - 2015-09-07 00:59 +0000
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-06 19:42 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light antonius@freeshell.de (Anton Shepelev) - 2015-09-11 22:03 +0000
              Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 23:14 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 15:39 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 09:14 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 20:42 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 12:38 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements (was: Re: A Particle Model of Light) Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 23:48 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 16:29 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-13 16:41 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 23:54 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 08:15 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 22:07 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-14 16:16 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-13 16:16 -0500
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:07 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Ignorant Raving Crackpot <ignorantravingcrackpot@gmail.com> - 2015-09-14 04:16 -0700
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements Anton Shepelev <anton.txt@g{oogle}mail.com> - 2015-09-14 15:43 +0300
                Re: Dayton Miller's measurements alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-14 12:01 -0700
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-09-18 07:18 +0200
          Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-20 12:37 -0500
            Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-20 14:09 -0700
              Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-20 17:34 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 06:40 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-22 19:14 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-23 09:17 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-24 09:39 -0500
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-24 17:38 +0200
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-24 10:54 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-24 11:36 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-24 11:54 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 15:45 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 09:15 -0700
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:19 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:25 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-22 16:28 +0000
                Re: Shtyrkov's claim of finding the "ether drift" alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-22 10:27 -0700
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2015-09-05 03:39 -0700
    Re: A Particle Model of Light kefischer <emoneyjoe@iglou.com> - 2015-09-05 11:17 -0400
  Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-12 19:25 -0500
    Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-13 08:01 -0500
      Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-19 13:21 -0500
        Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-19 23:44 -0500
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-20 04:34 -0700
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-20 15:25 -0500
          Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-21 12:02 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Jimmie Wynne <jimmwyn@metermap.org> - 2015-09-21 17:37 +0000
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-21 22:17 -0500
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-22 08:18 -0500
            Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-22 09:07 -0500
              Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-26 09:06 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-26 12:14 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-29 11:41 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 10:27 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-29 21:11 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 13:35 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-09-29 23:23 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-09-26 21:31 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-09-27 08:37 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-27 23:14 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 01:41 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-09-29 08:11 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-28 18:53 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-09-29 10:24 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 11:13 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-03 08:13 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-02 17:07 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-29 13:41 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-09-29 14:43 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-09-30 11:28 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Ned Latham <nedlatham@internode.on.net> - 2015-09-30 08:34 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-03 07:51 +1000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-03 14:22 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-05 04:32 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-05 10:00 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-05 19:58 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-05 19:35 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-06 04:39 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-06 10:38 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-06 02:15 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 08:01 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-06 14:16 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-09 08:16 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-08 20:50 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-11 08:11 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-10 14:44 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-12 07:51 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-11 17:12 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-12 11:47 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-13 08:01 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-13 19:39 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <HG@nowhere.com> - 2015-10-13 21:36 +0000
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-14 10:26 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 02:10 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-15 09:18 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 15:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 22:59 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-15 20:15 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-16 07:36 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-15 18:37 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2015-10-07 08:56 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 07:47 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Henry Wilson <HW@.....> - 2015-10-06 04:50 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 14:17 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-06 14:55 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light pnalsing@gmail.com - 2015-10-05 21:02 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 07:51 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 08:15 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-06 06:26 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 07:53 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 11:26 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 13:58 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light HGW <xxx@....> - 2015-10-07 07:56 +1100
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-06 13:57 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-07 00:15 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 11:15 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-12 12:31 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:55 -0700
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                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 21:55 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-13 08:39 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:49 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 22:54 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 02:25 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 02:43 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-14 09:16 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 10:37 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-14 12:31 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-14 12:56 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-15 11:31 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-15 12:31 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-17 15:53 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-17 20:38 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-12 18:02 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 19:01 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 22:15 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-13 02:37 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 10:48 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-10-13 21:43 +0200
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 13:51 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 16:00 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 16:11 -0500
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-14 00:45 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2015-10-13 16:24 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light alsor@interia.pl - 2015-10-13 08:41 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 22:08 -0700
                Re: A Particle Model of Light mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2015-10-13 01:52 -0700
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