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| From | Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.design |
| Subject | Re: H-1B Reform |
| Date | 2017-02-08 12:06 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <eg1c1eFici3U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2017-02-08 10:42, Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 02/08/2017 01:05 PM, Joerg wrote: >> On 2017-02-08 09:28, krw@notreal.com wrote: >>> On Wed, 08 Feb 2017 08:08:51 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2017-02-07 17:21, krw@notreal.com wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:02:30 -0800, Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Why are they unfillable? >>>>> >>>>> Because not enough people want a three or six month programming job >>>>> with no chance of direct hire. >>>> >>>> >>>> I have met lots of people who do. Also, that still beats being >>>> unable to >>>> make a good living or being stuck in some cheap apartment. >>> >>> But they *will* be stuck in a cheap apartment. That's the nature of >>> short-term contract work. BTDT. >>> >> >> It is not. I do this for a living. So why am I not stuck in a cheap >> apartment? > > Or I? I do the same thing. > Many people do. It just works, especially in America. >> >>>> For me, having shorter term stints (until a project is complete) is >>>> fun. >>>> It provides a smorgasbord of tasks for me which are all different. Just >>>> as I want it. There are not many hardware engineers who feel that way >>>> but many programmers do. >>> >>> They simply don't want to move for short-term work. You don't have to >>> because they come to you. Different kettle. >> >> >> It can be the same for programmers. They just have to become good enough >> so people either come to them or are willing to do it remotely. We live >> in a high-cost country and the only way to keep a decent job, temporary >> or not, is by becoming good enough at what one is doing. >> >> Example: The programmer for one of the projects I am involved in lives >> and works in his own home about 7000 miles from here. It works. Another >> works from his home about 3-4 miles from here and has mostly West Coast >> clients. Whenever we have to work together I usually go there by >> mountain bike. Even if we could get a certain task done remotely I >> sometimes rode (and did not bill my client for that travel time) because >> it's fun and healthy. >> >>>>>> >>>>>> For certain high-skill or niche jobs it is certainly true. WRT >>>>>> programmers what I hear is more like the first part of this article, >>>>>> they are heaving trouble finding enough gigs or employment: >>>>> >>>>> But they don't want to move for short term employment, either. >>>> >>>> There are more people than you think who abhor office politics and >>>> prefer freelancing just because of that. >>> >>> It's *NOT* freelancing. It's contract work. You're still working for >>> an employer. Two, in fact. >>> >> >> If people feel like not marketing their skills themselves then they have >> to live with the middleman company. I never did and never will. > > I sometimes do expert witness work through agencies, but never engineering. > I once had a potential client but then they wanted to go through a large agency. The people there were very nice but didn't really have a clue what they were looking for. Then they wanted me to work under a W2 relationship so we parted ways. That was after they wanted and called references, something nobody else ever requested. What a waste of time. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/
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Re: H-1B Reform bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-06 03:17 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-06 07:51 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform makolber@yahoo.com - 2017-02-06 10:08 -0800
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Re: H-1B Reform Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-06 20:36 +0000
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Re: H-1B Reform Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-07 17:01 -0500
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Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-08 08:18 -0800
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Re: H-1B Reform rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> - 2017-02-08 21:12 -0500
Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-09 07:42 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Neon John <no@never.com> - 2017-02-09 11:02 -0500
Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-09 10:36 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-09 14:34 -0500
Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-09 12:27 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> - 2017-02-09 15:33 -0500
Re: H-1B Reform Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com> - 2017-02-09 12:40 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform bill.sloman@ieee.org - 2017-02-09 17:58 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-06 17:10 +0000
Re: H-1B Reform Lasse Langwadt Christensen <langwadt@fonz.dk> - 2017-02-06 09:24 -0800
Re: H-1B Reform Tom Gardner <spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2017-02-06 18:05 +0000
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