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Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?

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Subject Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?
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On 12/13/22 10:57, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote:
> Am 13.12.2022 10:15 schrieb Timo Röhling:
>> One remaining problem is the unmaintained nose package
>> [...]
>> done some work patching up nose
> 
> This question is just for my learning: Why is nose patched? Upstream 
> nose is unmaintained for years.
> 
> I understand that you cannot drop nose from Debian in the current 
> situation of a freeze in one months and so many dependencies.
> 
> But isn't there a Debian process/workflow to "warn" package maintainers 
> about an upcoming package drop of one of there dependend packages to put 
> some pressure into it? Looking into the list of over 200 packages I see 
> this also as a chance to clean out some other unmaintained (and maybe 
> not so important) packages from the Debian repo.

It's unfortunately sometimes a bit harder than what one may think. 
Removing Nose from (build-)depends in some cases is hard, and IMO we 
started this process a way too late. Hopefully, Trixie will be 
nose-free! In the mean time, it is unfortunately my opinion that it's 
too late for Bookworm and that we must keep Nose for one more release.

Cheers,

Thomas Goirand (zigo)

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  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andrius Merkys <merkys@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 08:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 19:50 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 10:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? c.buhtz@posteo.jp - 2022-12-13 11:00 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 11:10 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:10 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 17:20 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-13 13:40 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:20 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-18 19:10 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-19 10:50 +0100
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            Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-19 21:30 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 17:10 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:20 +0100
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