Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod From: Thomas Goirand Newsgroups: linux.debian.maint.python Subject: Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: References: X-Mailbox-Line: From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Thu Dec 15 15:08:52 2022 Old-Return-Path: X-Amavis-Spam-Status: No, score=-110.005 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.515, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, MURPHY_DRUGS_REL8=0.02, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, USER_IN_DKIM_WELCOMELIST=-0.01, USER_IN_DKIM_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.5.0 Content-Language: en-US Organization: Debian Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Debian-User: zigo X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/20594 List-ID: List-URL: List-Archive: https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/5fb366a4-d484-7c8e-42da-a758189b1d8a@debian.org Approved: robomod@news.nic.it Lines: 27 Sender: robomod@news.nic.it X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 16:08:29 +0100 X-Original-Message-ID: <5fb366a4-d484-7c8e-42da-a758189b1d8a@debian.org> X-Original-References: <20221213091537.wovnxc44yzietsls@mail.gaussglocke.de> <4a7a4d174aaf4df2a518518b86e6be76@posteo.de> Xref: csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:14728 On 12/13/22 10:57, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote: > Am 13.12.2022 10:15 schrieb Timo Röhling: >> One remaining problem is the unmaintained nose package >> [...] >> done some work patching up nose > > This question is just for my learning: Why is nose patched? Upstream > nose is unmaintained for years. > > I understand that you cannot drop nose from Debian in the current > situation of a freeze in one months and so many dependencies. > > But isn't there a Debian process/workflow to "warn" package maintainers > about an upcoming package drop of one of there dependend packages to put > some pressure into it? Looking into the list of over 200 packages I see > this also as a chance to clean out some other unmaintained (and maybe > not so important) packages from the Debian repo. It's unfortunately sometimes a bit harder than what one may think. Removing Nose from (build-)depends in some cases is hard, and IMO we started this process a way too late. Hopefully, Trixie will be nose-free! In the mean time, it is unfortunately my opinion that it's too late for Bookworm and that we must keep Nose for one more release. Cheers, Thomas Goirand (zigo)