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Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?

From Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm?
Date 2022-12-13 11:10 +0100
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Hi all,

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Timo Röhling wrote:
> One remaining problem is the unmaintained nose package, which is not
> compatible with Python 3.11 and still a dependency of 200+ packages,
> including ~40 key packages [1]. I've seen that crusoe has done some work
> patching up nose, but AFAICT it is not building yet.
>
> Is this something we can resolve in time, either by fixing nose or
> removing it altogether?

I will try to fix nose. The remaining problem is just failing doctest.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 09:57:57AM +0000, c.buhtz@posteo.jp wrote:
> This question is just for my learning: Why is nose patched? Upstream nose is
> unmaintained for years.
>
> I understand that you cannot drop nose from Debian in the current situation
> of a freeze in one months and so many dependencies.
>
> But isn't there a Debian process/workflow to "warn" package maintainers
> about an upcoming package drop of one of there dependend packages to put
> some pressure into it? Looking into the list of over 200 packages I see this
> also as a chance to clean out some other unmaintained (and maybe not so
> important) packages from the Debian repo.

There are bugs filed against every package:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?users=python-modules-team@lists.alioth.debian.org;tag=nose-rm

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Dmitry Shachnev

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Python 3.11 for bookworm? Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 01:00 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Andrius Merkys <merkys@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 08:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 19:50 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Timo Röhling <roehling@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 10:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? c.buhtz@posteo.jp - 2022-12-13 11:00 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 11:10 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:10 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Dmitry Shachnev <mitya57@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 17:20 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-13 13:40 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:20 +0100
      Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-18 19:10 +0100
        Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-19 10:50 +0100
          Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Jochen Sprickerhof <jspricke@debian.org> - 2022-12-19 17:00 +0100
            Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2022-12-19 21:30 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2022-12-13 17:10 +0100
  Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-15 16:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.11 for bookworm? Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2022-12-16 10:50 +0100

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