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Re: Being tracked on the web

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From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
Subject Re: Being tracked on the web
Date 22 Jan 2014 22:24:41 GMT
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2014-01-22, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:
> In article <230120140856465666%YourName@YourISP.com>,
>  Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote:
>
>> And yet again, it is not and cannot track *you* - it has absolutely
>> no personal details about you at all. It does "track" what the
>> computer / device is doing. These nutters who claim their personal
>> information is being sold to other companies simply because they are
>> browsing websites, etc. are simply moronic idiots who have no idea
>> what they're talking about.
>
> So you've apparently forgotten how easy it is to do something like....
>
> Aha... machine XYZ, which we installed a unique ID cookie on last week
> when they visited feefiefoe.com has just landed on this other website,
> Englishgiant.org. We do analysis on that one, too, so we know it's the
> same machine because we queried the cookies it has, and guess what
> came back? Yep, The ID that was set by site feefiefoe.com. Oh, and
> look...  They used a credit card to order a copy of "How to avoid NSA
> Tracking".  OK, so now we'll start pumping ads about identity
> protection at them.  Oh, and look! From there, they went to this blog
> about privacy - Oh, goodie! We own the site the blog runs on, so we
> can get *EVERYTHING* they say and know what they read! Hmmm... they're
> reading about privacy again - More identity protection scheme ads...
> Oh, and bonus! They commented on one of the blog posts after logging
> in with their facebook account. OK, so now we know the id cookie we
> set is on a machine likely owned - definitely at least used - by Mr.
> Bill Smith, with CC number XXXXXXXX, and we know he's worried about
> privacy, and...
>
> From there, how many more steps do you think it takes before they,
> (not the tinfoil hat brigade's "they", but "whoever might be
> interested") know everything but the length of Mr. Smith's dick?
>
> Hint: Not very bloody many. With what they've got from just 4-5
> website visits, they've got all they need to do everything but tell
> you his hair color - and maybe even that. 
>
> But since you're just doing your best to stir the pot, you'll respond
> with something that boils down to "You're another tinfoil hatter,
> aincha?" - the typical fallback position for someone who doesn't want
> to face the fact that reality isn't what they wish it was.

Spot on.

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Being tracked on the web John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-18 21:50 -0800
  Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-18 22:27 -0800
    Re: Being tracked on the web Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-19 00:09 -0800
      Re: Being tracked on the web Joanna Shuttleworth <js@example.com> - 2014-01-19 09:58 +0000
        Re: Being tracked on the web Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-19 12:17 -0800
      Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-19 04:59 -0500
  Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 19:30 +1300
    Re: Being tracked on the web Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2014-01-19 15:32 -0600
      Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 13:12 +1300
        Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 00:14 +0000
        Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-19 19:12 -0800
          Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 18:15 +1300
            Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 00:29 -0500
              Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-20 19:14 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 01:25 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 09:13 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 15:22 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 13:25 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 19:28 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-20 18:13 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 16:29 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:10 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-20 22:57 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:12 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-21 23:13 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 21:51 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 16:33 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-20 22:48 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:43 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:56 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-21 01:10 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 19:35 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-21 03:29 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 09:11 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-21 16:13 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 13:14 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-21 21:22 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-21 16:22 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 13:14 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-21 19:40 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 16:53 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:30 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-21 23:48 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 18:11 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 13:21 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 08:56 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-22 12:35 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 22:24 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-22 17:47 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 13:02 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2014-01-22 19:45 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 18:19 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-22 23:34 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 18:26 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 12:35 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-23 05:48 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-22 16:09 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 13:08 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-22 23:37 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 18:24 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-23 01:04 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-23 19:15 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-23 03:16 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 22:19 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 02:15 +0000
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 18:16 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2014-01-22 09:43 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-21 17:22 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-22 13:14 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 23:25 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:10 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-01-20 16:10 -0800
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 16:34 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-20 23:36 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:48 +1300
                Re: Being tracked on the web nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:10 -0500
                Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-21 00:56 -0500
  Re: Being tracked on the web JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2014-01-19 03:37 -0500
  Re: Being tracked on the web dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-19 20:25 +1100
    Re: Being tracked on the web Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-19 14:20 -0500
      Re: Being tracked on the web Michael Vilain <vilain@NOspamcop.net> - 2014-01-19 12:26 -0800
  Re: Being tracked on the web Tom Stiller <clusterfux.upmon@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 13:27 +0000
  Re: Being tracked on the web Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 11:02 -0500
  Re: Being tracked on the web me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2014-01-19 16:08 +0000
    Re: Being tracked on the web John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2014-01-19 08:24 -0800
  Re: Being tracked on the web Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2014-01-19 12:43 -0500
    Re: Being tracked on the web Joe Wolf Dee <joedid@email.com> - 2014-01-19 12:46 -0500
  Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 18:54 +0000
    Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-19 18:06 -0500
      Re: Being tracked on the web Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 00:03 +0000
  Re: Being tracked on the web John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-01-19 13:49 -0500
    Re: Being tracked on the web J Burns <burns4@nowhere.com> - 2014-01-19 18:12 -0500
      Re: Being tracked on the web John Albert <j.albert@snet.net> - 2014-01-20 14:57 -0500

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