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  Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <hw@...> - 2016-04-05 15:01 +1000
    Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-04-04 22:18 -0700
      Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-04-05 20:53 +1000
        Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-05 12:12 +0100
          Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-04-05 21:31 +1000
            Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-05 12:43 +0100
            Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-04-05 15:27 +0000
              Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-04-06 04:39 +1000
                Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-04-05 18:44 +0000
                Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-04-05 19:26 +0000
                  Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-04-06 08:01 +1000
                    Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-04-05 22:17 +0000
                    Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-04-06 12:40 +0200
                      Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-04-06 07:37 -0700
                        Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-04-06 19:40 +0200
                Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> - 2016-04-06 16:59 +0000
                  Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint William Unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2016-04-06 23:11 +0000
                    Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-04-06 16:44 -0700
                      Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-04-09 02:30 +0200
                        Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-09 12:15 +0100
        Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-04-05 14:44 +0200
          Re: Recovering Win7 ^ Correct^ philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-04-05 08:00 -0500
            Re: Recovering Win7 ^ Correct^ Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-04-05 13:26 +0000
              Re: Recovering Win7 ^ Correct^ philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-04-05 09:19 -0500
                Re: Recovering Win7 ^ Correct^ Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2016-04-05 07:58 -0700
                  Re: Recovering Win7 ^ Correct^ philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-04-05 10:14 -0500
          Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint HGW <HGW@home.com> - 2016-04-06 03:18 +1000
            Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-04-05 13:30 -0500
              Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@invalid.es> - 2016-04-06 12:44 +0200
                Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint philo <philo@privacy.net> - 2016-04-06 12:08 -0500
                  Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2016-04-06 20:32 +0100
        Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2016-04-05 12:53 +0000
    Re: Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint Andreas Kohlbach <avr16.10.ankman@spamgourmet.net> - 2016-04-05 16:39 -0400

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#17149 — Recovering Win7 after installing Linux mint

When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465 gigs 
of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still there 
somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I had no 
trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32 computers
I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual boot but nothing 
seems to work. I notice many other people have had this experience 
because the 64 installation process does not make clear how to prevent 
the problem from happening.
Ideally, I want to set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want 
to resize the current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with 
the CD with no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up 
against a wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose 
Win7 altogether and would prefer not to do that.

Any suggestions?

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#17150

On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465 gigs
> of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still there
> somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I had no
> trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32 computers
> I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual boot but nothing
> seems to work. I notice many other people have had this experience
> because the 64 installation process does not make clear how to prevent
> the problem from happening.
> Ideally, I want to set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want
> to resize the current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with
> the CD with no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up
> against a wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose
> Win7 altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>
> Any suggestions?

	Gparted should be able to re-size your Linux partitions.

	It should also be able to show you the partition space
allocated to Windows 7.

	You may have to re-install Windows 7 which will then
try to take over your computer's hard drive.  If you do not
have the install disks then you can likely get them if the
builder of your computer is reliable.

	Once it is installed use the partition editor on Windows
7 to reduce the size of its partition.  You may encounter large
blocks of immovable files.  If it inhibits reduction of the
Windows partition to less than half of the hard drive then
you will need to reduce the page file size also though the
Windows 7 tools.
	Ok once that is out of the way you can use live booting
Gparted to make the partitions for Mint. note the partition number
as in sda3 or sda4 so that you can reference those partitions to
be your / or root partition and /home.  Make notes accordingly
if you want to have a more complicated setup.
Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the
prepared partitions.

	Post your questions in this thread if you want further
advice.

	bliss

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#17151

On 05/04/16 15:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
> On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
>> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465
>> gigs of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still
>> there somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I
>> had no trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32
>> computers I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual
>> boot but nothing seems to work. I notice many other people have had
>> this experience because the 64 installation process does not make
>> clear how to prevent the problem from happening. Ideally, I want to
>> set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want to resize the
>> current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with the CD with
>> no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up against a
>> wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose Win7
>> altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Gparted should be able to re-size your Linux partitions.

It will not allow that. Even when I booted with the CD I could not do
anything with the mint partition. I cannot unmount the partition because
it is in use.

> It should also be able to show you the partition space allocated to
> Windows 7.

No, it does not recognize it at all.

> You may have to re-install Windows 7 which will then try to take over
> your computer's hard drive.  If you do not have the install disks
> then you can likely get them if the builder of your computer is
> reliable.
>
> Once it is installed use the partition editor on Windows 7 to reduce
> the size of its partition.  You may encounter large blocks of
> immovable files.  If it inhibits reduction of the Windows partition
> to less than half of the hard drive then you will need to reduce the
> page file size also though the Windows 7 tools.

As far as I can tell, the windows partition is only about 25 Gig if it
exists at all.

> Ok once that is out of the way you can use live booting Gparted to
> make the partitions for Mint. note the partition number as in sda3 or
> sda4 so that you can reference those partitions to be your / or root
> partition and /home.  Make notes accordingly if you want to have a
> more complicated setup.

No, Gparted wont allow me to do anything. The partition cannot be
changed. Can you suggest a way to do it?

> Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the prepared
> partitions.

I don't have the windows disks so I don't want to format he whole hard
drive.


> Post your questions in this thread if you want further advice.
>
> bliss
>


-- 

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#17152

On 05/04/16 11:53, HGW wrote:
> On 05/04/16 15:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
>>> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465
>>> gigs of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still
>>> there somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I
>>> had no trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32
>>> computers I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual
>>> boot but nothing seems to work. I notice many other people have had
>>> this experience because the 64 installation process does not make
>>> clear how to prevent the problem from happening. Ideally, I want to
>>> set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want to resize the
>>> current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with the CD with
>>> no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up against a
>>> wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose Win7
>>> altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Gparted should be able to re-size your Linux partitions.
>
> It will not allow that. Even when I booted with the CD I could not do
> anything with the mint partition. I cannot unmount the partition because
> it is in use.
>
>> It should also be able to show you the partition space allocated to
>> Windows 7.
>
> No, it does not recognize it at all.
>
>> You may have to re-install Windows 7 which will then try to take over
>> your computer's hard drive.  If you do not have the install disks
>> then you can likely get them if the builder of your computer is
>> reliable.
>>
>> Once it is installed use the partition editor on Windows 7 to reduce
>> the size of its partition.  You may encounter large blocks of
>> immovable files.  If it inhibits reduction of the Windows partition
>> to less than half of the hard drive then you will need to reduce the
>> page file size also though the Windows 7 tools.
>
> As far as I can tell, the windows partition is only about 25 Gig if it
> exists at all.
>
>> Ok once that is out of the way you can use live booting Gparted to
>> make the partitions for Mint. note the partition number as in sda3 or
>> sda4 so that you can reference those partitions to be your / or root
>> partition and /home.  Make notes accordingly if you want to have a
>> more complicated setup.
>
> No, Gparted wont allow me to do anything. The partition cannot be
> changed. Can you suggest a way to do it?
>
>> Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the prepared
>> partitions.
>
> I don't have the windows disks so I don't want to format he whole hard
> drive.
>
>
>> Post your questions in this thread if you want further advice.
>>
>> bliss
>>
>
>
If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it 
is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work



-- 
He who shits in the road, will meet flies on his return.

"Mr Natural"

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#17153

On 05/04/16 21:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 05/04/16 11:53, HGW wrote:
>> On 05/04/16 15:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465
>>>> gigs of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still
>>>> there somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I
>>>> had no trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32
>>>> computers I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual
>>>> boot but nothing seems to work. I notice many other people have had
>>>> this experience because the 64 installation process does not make
>>>> clear how to prevent the problem from happening. Ideally, I want to
>>>> set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want to resize the
>>>> current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with the CD with
>>>> no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up against a
>>>> wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose Win7
>>>> altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>

>>
>> No, Gparted wont allow me to do anything. The partition cannot be
>> changed. Can you suggest a way to do it?
>>
>>> Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the prepared
>>> partitions.
>>
>> I don't have the windows disks so I don't want to format he whole hard
>> drive.
>>
>>
>>> Post your questions in this thread if you want further advice.
>>>
>>> bliss
>>>
>>
>>
> If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it
> is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work

That is what I thought, too. But how do I unmount the partition. Gparted 
does not say anything about mounting or unmounting. Is deactivating the 
same thing?

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#17154

On 05/04/16 12:31, HGW wrote:
> On 05/04/16 21:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/04/16 11:53, HGW wrote:
>>> On 05/04/16 15:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>> On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465
>>>>> gigs of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still
>>>>> there somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I
>>>>> had no trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32
>>>>> computers I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual
>>>>> boot but nothing seems to work. I notice many other people have had
>>>>> this experience because the 64 installation process does not make
>>>>> clear how to prevent the problem from happening. Ideally, I want to
>>>>> set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want to resize the
>>>>> current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with the CD with
>>>>> no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up against a
>>>>> wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose Win7
>>>>> altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>
>>>
>>> No, Gparted wont allow me to do anything. The partition cannot be
>>> changed. Can you suggest a way to do it?
>>>
>>>> Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the prepared
>>>> partitions.
>>>
>>> I don't have the windows disks so I don't want to format he whole hard
>>> drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Post your questions in this thread if you want further advice.
>>>>
>>>> bliss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it
>> is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work
>
> That is what I thought, too. But how do I unmount the partition. Gparted
> does not say anything about mounting or unmounting. Is deactivating the
> same thing?
>
umount /dev/whatever

mount

will show you what is mounted

Not sure what gui tools exist.

However, if you installed Mint using the 'lemme have the whole disk' 
option windows is gone forever.

Your windows partition if it still exists should show up in the file 
manager window as mint will find and mount anything it can on boot.

Or at least its should show as a mountable option.




-- 
No Apple devices were knowingly used in the preparation of this post.

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#17163

On 2016-04-05, HGW <HGW@home.com> wrote:
> On 05/04/16 21:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 05/04/16 11:53, HGW wrote:
>>> On 05/04/16 15:18, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>> On 04/04/2016 10:01 PM, HGW wrote:
>>>>> When I installed Mint, my win7 disappeared. Mint is using about 465
>>>>> gigs of my 500G drive in one partition so I think Win7 is still
>>>>> there somewhere on the other 35G. That happened on a 64 system. I
>>>>> had no trouble installing linux with dual boot on two other 32
>>>>> computers I have tried numerous suggestions to reestablish a dual
>>>>> boot but nothing seems to work. I notice many other people have had
>>>>> this experience because the 64 installation process does not make
>>>>> clear how to prevent the problem from happening. Ideally, I want to
>>>>> set up grub to allow boot options again. I also want to resize the
>>>>> current partition used by Linux. I tried rebooting with the CD with
>>>>> no result. Tried boot repair and Gparted but just end up against a
>>>>> wall of error messages. If I reformat the drive I might lose Win7
>>>>> altogether and would prefer not to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>
>>>
>>> No, Gparted wont allow me to do anything. The partition cannot be
>>> changed. Can you suggest a way to do it?
>>>
>>>> Then you can try to install Mint or something better on the prepared
>>>> partitions.
>>>
>>> I don't have the windows disks so I don't want to format he whole hard
>>> drive.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Post your questions in this thread if you want further advice.
>>>>
>>>> bliss
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it
>> is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work
>
> That is what I thought, too. But how do I unmount the partition. Gparted 
> does not say anything about mounting or unmounting. Is deactivating the 
> same thing?
>

As root
umount /name/of/partition/mount/point
Note that if you are not running gparted as root, you cannot do
anything. 

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#17170

On 06/04/16 01:27, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2016-04-05, HGW <HGW@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> bliss
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it
>>> is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work
>>
>> That is what I thought, too. But how do I unmount the partition. Gparted
>> does not say anything about mounting or unmounting. Is deactivating the
>> same thing?
>>
>
> As root
> umount /name/of/partition/mount/point
> Note that if you are not running gparted as root, you cannot do
> anything.

I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically 
want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows 
if I want it.


>

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#17171

On 2016-04-05, HGW <HGW@home.com> wrote:
> On 06/04/16 01:27, William Unruh wrote:
>> On 2016-04-05, HGW <HGW@home.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> bliss
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> If you boot from a live CD the hard disk will NIT be mounted, or if it
>>>> is you can unmount it and partitioning tools can then work
>>>
>>> That is what I thought, too. But how do I unmount the partition. Gparted
>>> does not say anything about mounting or unmounting. Is deactivating the
>>> same thing?
>>>
>>
>> As root
>> umount /name/of/partition/mount/point
>> Note that if you are not running gparted as root, you cannot do
>> anything.
>
> I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically 
> want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows 
> if I want it.

It means that you want to unmount the partition which has been mounted
on the directory location /name/of/partition/mount/point
(Of course you have to give it the actual name of the directory location
on which the relevant partition has been mounted.)
You could try
umount -a
to umount everything Those partitions in use will not be unmounted. 
but that might unmount some stuff  you do not want unmounted. 

df -a
will list everything that is mounted. Unfortunately it used to be that
df
listed all regular mounted stuff (eg not proc, or sys..) but now it
edits stuff so that if two subdirectory of some partition are mounted 
it will only list one of them, making df much less useful. Idiocy.
df -a 
list everything, including all cgroups, etc ( a huge bunch of junk
almost noone has any interest in.)

Thus the question "whats mounted" no longer has a reasonable answer.

>
>
>>
>

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#17172

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 04:39:16 +1000, HGW wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically 
> want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows 
> if I want it.

Well I wish you luck. 

You better have:
1  backup that you know has everything you would want restored.
2  Above is a verification that backup media is pretty good.
3  hard copy backup/restore procedure
4  that has been tested
5  tested that you know how to edit files on your install using
   the tools provided by your rescue cd/usb media.

Guessing you will be shrinking mint partition from the front.
It has been years since I have done that. It may take awhile.

My solution, installed VirtualBox, created a win7 guest, mounted my
win 7 Home Premium iso. Every couple of months I click win7, about 10
seconds later I click my get updates icon.

In your case, I'll guess it will be more than 24 hours before you get
all updates installed. That assumes win10 does not sneak in as part of
updates. 

Come tax season, I clone a copy of win7, boot it, install H&R Block
tax software, do taxes, copy irs documents and tax director(s) to usb,
save usb contents to 201x_tax, print tax documents, burn 201x_tax to
cd, and delete win7 clone. My cd, H&R cd and tax documents go in a
gallon zip log bag and stuck in a shoe box.

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#17177

On 06/04/16 05:26, Bit Twister wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 04:39:16 +1000, HGW wrote:

> You better have:
> 1  backup that you know has everything you would want restored.
> 2  Above is a verification that backup media is pretty good.
> 3  hard copy backup/restore procedure
> 4  that has been tested
> 5  tested that you know how to edit files on your install using
>     the tools provided by your rescue cd/usb media.
>
> Guessing you will be shrinking mint partition from the front.
> It has been years since I have done that. It may take awhile.

It looks as though I cannot shrink the partition at all. I have booted 
with the CD and the partitions are unmounted...but I am still unable to 
shrink the the 465 gig one. I cannot change the size settings in the 
resize dialog box....so I'm going to format the whole thing and start 
again. There is nothing much on it that needs to be saved.

I might be able to install Win10 although I heard it is really lousy. I 
am very happy with Linux.

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#17178

On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 08:01:23 +1000, HGW wrote:
> On 06/04/16 05:26, Bit Twister wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2016 04:39:16 +1000, HGW wrote:
>
>> You better have:
>> 1  backup that you know has everything you would want restored.
>> 2  Above is a verification that backup media is pretty good.
>> 3  hard copy backup/restore procedure
>> 4  that has been tested
>> 5  tested that you know how to edit files on your install using
>>     the tools provided by your rescue cd/usb media.
>>
>> Guessing you will be shrinking mint partition from the front.
>> It has been years since I have done that. It may take awhile.
>
> It looks as though I cannot shrink the partition at all. I have booted 
> with the CD and the partitions are unmounted...but I am still unable to 
> shrink the the 465 gig one. I cannot change the size settings in the 
> resize dialog box....so I'm going to format the whole thing and start 
> again. 

Well, since you are going to wipe the drive, I suggest playing with
gui gparted.  You still seem to be having problems.

For re-sizing you click partition of interest, click arrow on end of
partition and drag it until size is where you want it.
Click apply and your done.

Tell you what, bring up browser, go to youtube.com and enter 
gparted resize

You should be able to boot the rescuecd click third icon from left and
you would be where the video picks up.


> There is nothing much on it that needs to be saved.

In that case, I would try changing drive partition table to GPT.
Click Device and it will wipe the drive.

Create your vfat partition, one or more linux partitions but set type
as vfat, and leave room on end of partition for win7 to create its
backup/restore partitions.

Then win7 might just use the first for install and add something on
the end.
You can then come back delete/format the middle partitions back as
ext4. then do your linux install

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#17182

On 2016-04-06 00:01, HGW wrote:

> 
> It looks as though I cannot shrink the partition at all. I have booted
> with the CD and the partitions are unmounted...but I am still unable to
> shrink the the 465 gig one. I cannot change the size settings in the
> resize dialog box....so I'm going to format the whole thing and start
> again. There is nothing much on it that needs to be saved.

I was going to tell you just that. Not all Linux filesystems allow
reducing the size. Most if not all only allow increasing the size, and
easily.

Yours being a fresh install it is just easier to start again.

> I might be able to install Win10 although I heard it is really lousy. I
> am very happy with Linux.

Win 10 is not that bad. You can disable most things that hinder privacy,
if you wish.

Typically, it is easier to install Windows, then Linux. If you do the
other way, make sure to leave free partitions for Windows. W10 should
need two. I'm unsure it will work.


-- 
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#17187

On 04/06/2016 03:40 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> On 2016-04-06 00:01, HGW wrote:
>
>>
>> It looks as though I cannot shrink the partition at all. I have booted
>> with the CD and the partitions are unmounted...but I am still unable to
>> shrink the the 465 gig one. I cannot change the size settings in the
>> resize dialog box....so I'm going to format the whole thing and start
>> again. There is nothing much on it that needs to be saved.
>
> I was going to tell you just that. Not all Linux filesystems allow
> reducing the size. Most if not all only allow increasing the size, and
> easily.
>
> Yours being a fresh install it is just easier to start again.
>
>> I might be able to install Win10 although I heard it is really lousy. I
>> am very happy with Linux.
>
> Win 10 is not that bad. You can disable most things that hinder privacy,
> if you wish.
>
> Typically, it is easier to install Windows, then Linux. If you do the
> other way, make sure to leave free partitions for Windows. W10 should
> need two. I'm unsure it will work.
>
>
	And if Windows 10 aka MS-spy-ware takes the traditional Windows
approach it will take over a whole drive and if you already have done
your Linux install all that work will be wasted.  If you have two hard
or solid state drives in your machine then you can put Windows on one
but disconnect the other or Windows may take it too.

	bliss
	

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#17193

On 2016-04-06 16:37, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

>     And if Windows 10 aka MS-spy-ware takes the traditional Windows
> approach it will take over a whole drive and if you already have done
> your Linux install all that work will be wasted.  

Not with a real M$ install disk. I tested this many times with Win 2008
and it limited itself to the given partition destroying nothing. I had
several Windows and Linux installs on the same disk.

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#17189

On 2016-04-05, HGW wrote:
> I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically 
> want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows 
> if I want it.

How would you reinstall Windows if you don't have the install disks, as
you stated in an earlier post?
-- 
                                 Chick Tower

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#17197

On 2016-04-06, Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> wrote:
> On 2016-04-05, HGW wrote:
>> I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically 
>> want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows 
>> if I want it.
>
> How would you reinstall Windows if you don't have the install disks, as
> you stated in an earlier post?

Ask MS for the install disk. Say your disk got wiped or died 

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#17198

On 04/06/2016 04:11 PM, William Unruh wrote:
> On 2016-04-06, Chick Tower <c.tower@deadspam.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-04-05, HGW wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if I know what that means. But I will try it. I basically
>>> want to reduce the size of the Mint partition so I can reinstall Windows
>>> if I want it.
>>
>> How would you reinstall Windows if you don't have the install disks, as
>> you stated in an earlier post?
>
> Ask MS for the install disk. Say your disk got wiped or died
>

	Or call the makers of your your computer which
will usually have specialized OEM disks with all the drivers
your hardware will need.

	bliss

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#17201

On 2016-04-07 01:44, Bobbie Sellers wrote:

>     Or call the makers of your your computer which
> will usually have specialized OEM disks with all the drivers
> your hardware will need.

Yes, that's an advantage, but these OEM disks usually install to the
whole disk. Installing to half the disk is not an option. They usually
are just an imaging solution, not a true install media.

On the other hand... I wonder it is just possible to download the W10
install media, as the computer probably has a sticker with the license
code on it.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#17203

On 09/04/16 01:30, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2016-04-07 01:44, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>
>>      Or call the makers of your your computer which
>> will usually have specialized OEM disks with all the drivers
>> your hardware will need.
>
> Yes, that's an advantage, but these OEM disks usually install to the
> whole disk. Installing to half the disk is not an option. They usually
> are just an imaging solution, not a true install media.
>
> On the other hand... I wonder it is just possible to download the W10
> install media, as the computer probably has a sticker with the license
> code on it.
>
The way to do this is to reinstall the whole disk, then reinstall linux 
Mint  with the option to 'use a bit of spare disk space.

Linux will then shrink the windows partition and install itself alongside.

-- 
Future generations will wonder in bemused amazement that the early 
twenty-first century’s developed world went into hysterical panic over a 
globally average temperature increase of a few tenths of a degree, and, 
on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer 
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to 
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

Richard Lindzen

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