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| First post | 2018-08-31 09:33 -0700 |
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Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-31 09:33 -0700
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 12:37 -0400
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-08-31 14:40 -0700
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-08-31 18:04 -0400
Re: Linux? xJumper <sugarman@mailinator.com> - 2018-08-31 13:34 -0400
Re: Linux? mrvtktjv <mrvtktjv@mp107.ct8.pl> - 2018-09-01 00:06 +0200
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-01 10:53 +0000
Re: Linux? micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> - 2018-09-01 20:34 -0400
Re: Linux? Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> - 2018-09-02 01:15 +0000
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 01:51 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-04 13:31 +0000
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-04 10:09 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-04 17:39 +0000
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 14:15 -0400
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 15:32 +0000
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 20:16 -0400
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 15:33 +0000
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-07 12:40 -0400
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-07 17:10 +0000
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-08 17:51 -0400
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:50 -0700
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:59 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 13:53 +0000
Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-06 09:04 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-06 18:09 +0000
Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-06 18:35 -0700
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 14:59 -0700
Re: Linux? 123456789 <123456@123456.com> - 2018-09-08 21:18 -0700
Re: Linux? sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:20 -0700
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-07 14:29 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 16:04 +0000
Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-08 11:03 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-08 19:18 +0000
Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-08 19:00 -0700
Re: Linux? Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2018-09-09 15:05 +0000
Re: Linux? 123456789 <12345@12345.com> - 2018-09-09 09:22 -0700
Re: Linux? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2018-09-09 19:08 -0700
Re: Linux? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-08 17:51 -0400
Re:Linux? Libor Striz <poutnik4REMOVEnntp@CAPITALSgmail.com> - 2018-09-02 20:16 +0200
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 09:33 -0700 |
| Subject | Linux? |
| Message-ID | <pmbqkg$vd7$1@dont-email.me> |
Hi All,
Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run
Android apps?
Many thanks,
-T
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 12:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310820181237295118%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55325 |
In article <pmbqkg$vd7$1@dont-email.me>, <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > Android apps? some chromebooks do: <https://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-chromebooks-can-run-android-li nux-apps> how well that works varies...
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 14:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmcckj$oa9$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55326 |
On 08/31/2018 09:37 AM, nospam wrote: > In article <pmbqkg$vd7$1@dont-email.me>, <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run >> Android apps? > > some chromebooks do: > <https://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-chromebooks-can-run-android-li > nux-apps> > > how well that works varies... > This looks like the base OS is Android. :'(
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 18:04 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <310820181804272268%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55360 |
In article <pmcckj$oa9$1@dont-email.me>, <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > >> Android apps? > > > > some chromebooks do: > > <https://www.androidcentral.com/these-are-chromebooks-can-run-android-li > > nux-apps> > > > > how well that works varies... > > > > This looks like the base OS is Android. :'( chromebooks run chromeos. if you want to run android apps, get an android device. running android apps on anything other than what they were originally designed to be used is going to bring compromises.
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| From | xJumper <sugarman@mailinator.com> |
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| Date | 2018-08-31 13:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <c_eiD.45304$Ac3.43893@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #55325 |
On 08/31/2018 12:33 PM, T wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > Android apps? > > Many thanks, > -T If I'm not mistaken, there is a sort of project right now to have Linux based phones/tablets, it's called "Libreme" or something AND there is basically something else whose name escapes me right now but it's supposed to be like Wine but for Linux to run Android apps.
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| From | mrvtktjv <mrvtktjv@mp107.ct8.pl> |
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| Date | 2018-09-01 00:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <pmce47$1fm4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #55325 |
W dniu 31.08.2018 o 18:33, T pisze: > Hi All, > > Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > Android apps? > > Many thanks, > -T Sailfish OS has Android compatibility layer on official releases for devices. Not sure if there currently are any tablets available though.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-01 10:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pme22r.4h0.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55325 |
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > Hi All, > > Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > Android apps? Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android tablet? 'Termux' <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux>
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| From | micky <NONONOmisc07@bigfoot.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-01 20:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <40cmod10aapk8vbn1ivp9jhauogonc5nd8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #55389 |
In comp.mobile.android, on 1 Sep 2018 10:53:18 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: >T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run >> Android apps? > > Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android >tablet? > >'Termux' ><https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux> How about on a Yellow, Lined tablet.
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| From | Eli the Bearded <*@eli.users.panix.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-02 01:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <eli$1809012115@qaz.wtf> |
| In reply to | #55389 |
In comp.mobile.android, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run >> Android apps? > Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android > tablet? > > 'Termux' Works great for most non-GUI stuff. I don't think you can do anything graphical (as more than curses) with it. And I've been having some issues getting CUPS working under it. But vim, curses games like moria or tint, sure. I even got trn4 working under it, but that was a bit of a tricky build. Elijah ------ rn / trn is prepared for a lot of weird systems but not one with no /bin/sh
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 01:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmlh3c$7ps$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55389 |
On 09/01/2018 03:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run >> Android apps? > > Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android > tablet? > > 'Termux' > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux> > me no want google spying
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 13:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmm8fs.59s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55522 |
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 09/01/2018 03:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> Hi All, > >> > >> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > >> Android apps? > > > > Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android > > tablet? > > > > 'Termux' > > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux> > > me no want google spying Please explain what *you* meand by that! I'm afraid our crystal balls are not *that* good. Does that mean you don't want to use the Google Play store? If so, just get the APK from a reliable source (I use apkpure.com).
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| From | T <T@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 10:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <pmme7t$kvc$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #55524 |
On 09/04/2018 06:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: >> On 09/01/2018 03:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: >>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run >>>> Android apps? >>> >>> Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android >>> tablet? >>> >>> 'Termux' >>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux> >> >> me no want google spying > > Please explain what *you* meand by that! I'm afraid our crystal balls > are not *that* good. > > Does that mean you don't want to use the Google Play store? If so, > just get the APK from a reliable source (I use apkpure.com). > I want to run Netflix and such but I do not what the constant Google telemetry spying that comes build into to Android.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 17:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmmn22.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55528 |
T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 09/04/2018 06:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > > T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> On 09/01/2018 03:53 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote: > >>> T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote: > >>>> Hi All, > >>>> > >>>> Is there a Linux tablet out there yet that will run > >>>> Android apps? > >>> > >>> Why not do it the other way around, run Linux 'apps' on an Android > >>> tablet? > >>> > >>> 'Termux' > >>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.termux> > >> > >> me no want google spying > > > > Please explain what *you* meand by that! I'm afraid our crystal balls > > are not *that* good. > > > > Does that mean you don't want to use the Google Play store? If so, > > just get the APK from a reliable source (I use apkpure.com). > > > > I want to run Netflix and such but I do not what > the constant Google telemetry spying that comes > build into to Android. Then why do you want Android, i.e. what kind of Android apps do you want to run? And why do you want Linux? I.e. tell us a bit more about what you want to do with the tablet and perhaps we can give some other suggestions. BTW, for Netflix, you could use small/cheap(ish) Windows tablet. BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want, so there's little/nothing for Google to spy.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 14:15 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <050920181415472167%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55529 |
In article <pmmn22.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps > and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want, > so there's little/nothing for Google to spy. there is still quite a bit for them to spy and they certainly won't be fooled by a fake name. google knows the imei and other hardware identifiers, and if the phone has active cellular service, they know who owns the account via the cell carriers. location data will show where the person lives and works and otherwise spends their time. google also knows what ip addresses the device connects from, which will match other computers the person uses. a lot of apps and web sites use google analytics and other tracking, adding even more data.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 15:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmro9u.46o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55558 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pmmn22.bqo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg > <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps > > and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want, > > so there's little/nothing for Google to spy. > > there is still quite a bit for them to spy and they certainly won't be > fooled by a fake name. > > google knows the imei and other hardware identifiers, and if the phone > has active cellular service, they know who owns the account via the > cell carriers. What 'phone'? And even if this *was* about a 'phone', which it isn't, or a tablet with cellular, Google does not have any access to subscriber details, at least not in the EU (GDPR) and probably not in the rest of the civilized world (which may or may not include the US). > location data will show where the person lives and works > and otherwise spends their time. google also knows what ip addresses > the device connects from, which will match other computers the person > uses. a lot of apps and web sites use google analytics and other > tracking, adding even more data. Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP will want/enable Location Services, but even if 'he' does, there is no such thing as 'the person'. Google may *try* to identify a unique individual, but as long as they fsck up detection of *legit* access to their servers, we shouldn't be too worried. And then there's the GDPR. If they *really* collect personal information without consent, fines of up to two percent of their turnover will get them in line quick smart.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-06 20:16 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <060920182016219789%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55582 |
In article <pmro9u.46o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps > > > and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want, > > > so there's little/nothing for Google to spy. > > > > there is still quite a bit for them to spy and they certainly won't be > > fooled by a fake name. > > > > google knows the imei and other hardware identifiers, and if the phone > > has active cellular service, they know who owns the account via the > > cell carriers. > > What 'phone'? most android devices are phones, but many tablets have a cellular radio. tablets without a cellular radio won't have an imei, but they still have a unique device id along with other unique identifying information. they are not immune from tracking just because there's no cell radio. > And even if this *was* about a 'phone', which it isn't, or a tablet > with cellular, Google does not have any access to subscriber details, at > least not in the EU (GDPR) and probably not in the rest of the civilized > world (which may or may not include the US). the info can be obtained in other ways if the carrier doesn't provide it, including via data brokers who collect and resell user data or something as innocent as another person adding your mobile number (and perhaps home & work numbers along with street address) to their google contacts. it only takes one leak to connect the dots, and that leak can be from just about anyone. > > location data will show where the person lives and works > > and otherwise spends their time. google also knows what ip addresses > > the device connects from, which will match other computers the person > > uses. a lot of apps and web sites use google analytics and other > > tracking, adding even more data. > > Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP > will want/enable Location Services, as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter: <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi story-data> You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the Associated Press reports. they also know your general location via the ip addresses from which the device connects, which it must do to be useful. > but even if 'he' does, there is no > such thing as 'the person'. Google may *try* to identify a unique > individual, but as long as they fsck up detection of *legit* access to > their servers, we shouldn't be too worried. may try?? google's entire business model is collecting user data to better sell ad placement. the more info they have, the more effective ads they can sell and the more money they make. it's not 'may try', but 'how much can we try and get away with'. > And then there's the GDPR. If they *really* collect personal > information without consent, fines of up to two percent of their > turnover will get them in line quick smart. you're assuming it's done without consent. that would be wrong. users gave full consent when they agreed with the terms of service. it doesn't matter if they actually read it (most did not). they tapped agree. google's statement (from the above link): Google¹s stance is that Location History¹s purpose and functionality is clearly spelled out to users. A Google spokesperson said in a statement to The Verge, ³Location History is a Google product that is entirely opt in, and users have the controls to edit, delete, or turn it off at any time. although many would disagree with 'clearly spelled out' and 'opt-in' (it's anything *but* clear and the default is on, not off), but they *did* agree to the tos and the settings enabled access to the information. in other words, consent. also from the above link: This isn¹t the first time we¹ve heard of Google tracking your location regardless of whether you have location services turned on. Last November, Quartz reported that Android phones still collect your location data from nearby cell towers and send it to Google, even if you toggle off location services and take out your SIM card. Google later said it would remove the data-collecting feature by December of last year. This time, it¹s a little different because instead of it being cell towers that are the culprit, it¹s web services. But if anyone pays close enough attention to the fine print of permissions agreements, they can catch what tech companies are doing. even if users do pay attention to the fine print (which few people do), it's not always obvious what they're actually doing. tl;dr - it's *really* hard to avoid being tracked, and not just by google.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 15:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmucpi.brs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55590 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pmro9u.46o.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg > <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > > > BTW2, you do not need a Google account to run Android or Android apps > > > > and *if* you use a Google account it can be as fake/private as you want, > > > > so there's little/nothing for Google to spy. > > > > > > there is still quite a bit for them to spy and they certainly won't be > > > fooled by a fake name. > > > > > > google knows the imei and other hardware identifiers, and if the phone > > > has active cellular service, they know who owns the account via the > > > cell carriers. > > > > What 'phone'? [(More) Out-of-context stuff deleted.] > > Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP > > will want/enable Location Services, > > as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter: > > <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi > story-data> > You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History > option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But > the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and > even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home > address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the > Associated Press reports. As usual, you don't pay attention to the context. The OP doesn't want Google spying on him, so - unless he's stupid - he is not going to use Google products, apps (such as the (Google) Maps example), services, etc.. So the *real* context is an Android tablet without a Google account or with a fake Google account (for using the Play Store). I recommend(ed) the former. So the *only* Google stuff is Android (without any Google apps) and *perhaps* a *fake* Google account and the Play Store. With/in *that* context, Google can get no personal information about the user. EOD. [...]
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 12:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <070920181240240855%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55602 |
In article <pmucpi.brs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP > > > will want/enable Location Services, > > > > as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter: > > > > <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi > > story-data> > > You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History > > option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But > > the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and > > even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home > > address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the > > Associated Press reports. > > As usual, you don't pay attention to the context. that would be you. > The OP doesn't want Google spying on him, so - unless he's stupid - he > is not going to use Google products, apps (such as the (Google) Maps > example), services, etc.. android is a google product. or have you forgotten that part? there's no need to use maps or other google apps. most non-google apps include google analytics, and may check location data as well. and that's in addition to what android, the os, is doing. <https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/21/technology/google-data-collection/inde x.html> Short of chucking your phone into the river, shunning the internet, and learning to read paper maps again, there's not much you can do to keep Google from collecting data about you. ... The researchers claims that almost every move you make online is collected and collated, from your morning routine (such as music tastes, route to work, and news preferences) to errands (including calendar appointments, webpages visited, and purchases made). "At the end of the day, Google identified user interests with remarkable accuracy," the report states. ... "It's nearly impossible to do anything digitally without Google collecting data on you," said Kint. tl;dr you're being tracked. > So the *real* context is an Android tablet without a Google account or > with a fake Google account (for using the Play Store). I recommend(ed) > the former. > > So the *only* Google stuff is Android (without any Google apps) and > *perhaps* a *fake* Google account and the Play Store. > > With/in *that* context, Google can get no personal information about > the user. oh yes they can, and do. they're not fooled by a fake account. using a custom rom can minimize it (and not without compromises), but it isn't zero.
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| From | Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-07 17:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmuif8.72s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #55606 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <pmucpi.brs.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg > <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the OP > > > > will want/enable Location Services, > > > > > > as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter: > > > > > > <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi > > > story-data> > > > You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History > > > option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But > > > the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and > > > even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home > > > address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the > > > Associated Press reports. > > > > As usual, you don't pay attention to the context. > > that would be you. Nope. Read on. > > The OP doesn't want Google spying on him, so - unless he's stupid - he > > is not going to use Google products, apps (such as the (Google) Maps > > example), services, etc.. > > android is a google product. or have you forgotten that part? Exactly *which* part of > > So the *only* Google stuff is Android (without any Google apps) and > > *perhaps* a *fake* Google account and the Play Store. didn't you understand!? Moral: Read the *whole* post before sticking your foot in it. > there's no need to use maps or other google apps. most non-google apps > include google analytics, 'most'!? <barf> > and may check location data as well. and > that's in addition to what android, the os, is doing. Who cares if some alleged non-google apps or/and Android is checking location data of an unknown device with a fake 'owner'? Not that you have any *proof* of that actually happening. (No your misinterpreting the references you gave, doesn't count as proof.) [...] > tl;dr you're being tracked. With the pesky little detail, that *in this context*, there is *no* 'you', just some fake name. Big fsck-ing deal! > > So the *real* context is an Android tablet without a Google account or > > with a fake Google account (for using the Play Store). I recommend(ed) > > the former. > > > > So the *only* Google stuff is Android (without any Google apps) and > > *perhaps* a *fake* Google account and the Play Store. > > > > With/in *that* context, Google can get no personal information about > > the user. > > oh yes they can, and do. they're not fooled by a fake account. Says you, but you don't/can't prove it. QED. HTH. HAND. EOD^2. NK.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-08 17:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <080920181751421945%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #55609 |
In article <pmuif8.72s.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote: > > > > > Given that he does not want Google to 'spy', it's unlikely that the > > > > > OP will want/enable Location Services, > > > > > > > > as it turns out, disabling that doesn't actually matter: > > > > > > > > <https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/13/17684660/google-turn-off-location-hi > > > > story-data> > > > > You may have assumed that turning off Google¹s Location History > > > > option meant that Google is no longer tracking your movements. But > > > > the reality is that Google can continue to collect location data and > > > > even track you on a minute-by-minute basis, remembering your home > > > > address, and other places you¹ve visited throughout the day, the > > > > Associated Press reports. > > > > > > As usual, you don't pay attention to the context. > > > > that would be you. > > Nope. Read on. nope. you fail to grasp how much google (and others) track people, even when they try to avoid it. > > > and may check location data as well. and > > that's in addition to what android, the os, is doing. > > Who cares if some alleged non-google apps or/and Android is checking > location data of an unknown device with a fake 'owner'? those who are concerned about not being tracked. > Not that you have any *proof* of that actually happening. (No your > misinterpreting the references you gave, doesn't count as proof.) there is no misinterpretation whatsoever and there's plenty of proof out there. don't blame others because you failed to read and understand any of it.
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