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Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?

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On 7/12/2018 2:31 AM, Haddock wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2018 09:29:47 UTC+2 schrieb slawek:
>> New Oracle politics restrict free JRE (general computing) to 
>> non-commercial etc.
>> 
>> The license cost is affordable, but nobody can guarantee future 
>> prices/rules.
> 
> IMHO, Sun should have done that many years ago. Could have helped
> them from going bancrupt. A small amount for the JRE while the JDK
> for development remains free would not have harmed the business and
> helped them to survive.
> 
> I know most people think differently about this matter, but that is
> my opinion. Though I wouldn't have minded Sun charging a bit for the
> JRE I certainly do mind now Oracle doing that :-))).

First of all there does not seem to be any indication that
Oracle has changed the rules fundamentally compared
to SUN. General purpose usage is free - embedded usage
is for pay. Support of free is limited time wise - support
of for pay is very long term. Some details has changed over
the years, but nothing fundamental.

And I am not so sure that making all production usage
for pay would have been a wise move. C++, C#/.NET, PHP
etc. are all free at runtime. If Java had meant
pay at runtime, then Java would have been at a commercial
disadvantage.

Arne

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No more free JRE - Java is dead? slawek <x.y@org.org> - 2018-06-27 09:29 +0200
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 12:00 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:24 -0700
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 20:07 +0200
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 12:24 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 21:50 +0200
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 13:35 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 20:38 +0000
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:14 -0400
          Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 19:40 +0000
            Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-28 18:32 -0400
              Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 23:15 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:09 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 21:07 -0400
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Haddock <ffm2002@web.de> - 2018-07-11 23:31 -0700
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-14 14:01 -0400
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:51 -0700
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-20 21:43 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2018-07-15 14:04 +0300

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