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Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?

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On 27.06.18 09.29, slawek wrote:
> New Oracle politics restrict free JRE (general computing) to
>   non-commercial etc.
>
> The license cost is affordable, but nobody can guarantee future
>   prices/rules.

I mentioned this risk a few years ago when Oracle bought Sun. The Java 
fan-boys at the conference were not amused and called me a fool. ;-)

But AFAIK this applies only to some non-free addons that ship with JRE. 
As long as you avoid to use this features it is still free, or did I 
miss something?

> Therefore it would be better don't use Java in any FOSS.

I think it depends. OpenJDK exists.

But the Java rules require any existing Java implementation to be 
certified by Oracle. If they change the certification rules they can 
easily kick any free implementation if they want.

> The old gold C++ is more secure.

For CLI software, fine. But you don't want to write a portable GUI in 
C++. And it is more complex to learn the language.

> Not mention Fortran IV.

Well, that's reserved for masochistic developers nowadays. ;-)

I would put Mono/.NET into play. Although it is commercial too, there is 
no restriction for free implementations of the ECMA standard. And well, 
it can be faster too, mainly because of the support of custom value types.


Marcel

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No more free JRE - Java is dead? slawek <x.y@org.org> - 2018-06-27 09:29 +0200
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 12:00 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:24 -0700
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 20:07 +0200
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 12:24 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 21:50 +0200
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 13:35 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 20:38 +0000
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:14 -0400
          Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 19:40 +0000
            Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-28 18:32 -0400
              Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 23:15 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:09 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 21:07 -0400
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Haddock <ffm2002@web.de> - 2018-07-11 23:31 -0700
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-14 14:01 -0400
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:51 -0700
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