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Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?

From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?
Date 2018-06-27 20:09 -0400
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On 6/27/2018 3:29 AM, slawek wrote:
> New Oracle politics restrict free JRE (general computing) to
>   non-commercial etc.

No.

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/terms/license/index.html

"Oracle grants you a non-exclusive, non-transferable, limited license 
without license fees to reproduce and use internally the Software 
complete and unmodified for the sole purpose of running Programs. "

It is free to use JRE to run programs with.

And then come two exceptions/limitations:

"General Purpose Desktop Computers and Servers" means computers, 
including desktop and laptop computers, or servers, used for general 
computing functions under end user control (such as but not specifically 
limited to email, general purpose Internet browsing, and office suite 
productivity tools). The use of Software in systems and solutions that 
provide dedicated functionality (other than as mentioned above) or 
designed for use in embedded or function-specific software applications, 
for example but not limited to: Software embedded in or bundled with 
industrial control systems, wireless mobile telephones, wireless 
handheld devices, kiosks, TV/STB, Blu-ray Disc devices, telematics and 
network control switching equipment, printers and storage management 
systems, and other related systems are excluded from this definition and 
not licensed under this Agreement. "Programs" means (a) Java technology 
applets and applications intended to run on the Java Platform, Standard 
Edition platform on Java-enabled General Purpose Desktop Computers and 
Servers; and (b) JavaFX technology applications intended to run on the 
JavaFX Runtime on JavaFX-enabled General Purpose Desktop Computers and 
Servers."

The license can only be used on desktop PC's and servers not on
embedded systems.

I believe that rule goes back to the SUN days.

"THE LICENSE SET FORTH IN THIS SECTION 2 DOES NOT EXTEND TO THE 
COMMERCIAL FEATURES."

"“Commercial Features” means those features that are identified as such 
in the Java SE LIUM under the “Description of Product Editions and 
Permitted Features” section."

The license does not cover:

Java Flight Recorder
Java Mission Control
Java Advanced Management Console
MSI Enterprise JRE Installer
JRE Usage Tracking

This rule probably came in place when Oracle took over SUN
a decade ago. As these features came from BEA Java (JRockit)
that Oracle merged with SUN Java.

> Have I missed something?

Just the fact that Oracle has not done such a thing.

Arne


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No more free JRE - Java is dead? slawek <x.y@org.org> - 2018-06-27 09:29 +0200
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 12:00 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:24 -0700
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 20:07 +0200
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 12:24 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 21:50 +0200
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 13:35 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 20:38 +0000
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:14 -0400
          Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 19:40 +0000
            Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-28 18:32 -0400
              Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 23:15 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:09 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 21:07 -0400
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Haddock <ffm2002@web.de> - 2018-07-11 23:31 -0700
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-14 14:01 -0400
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:51 -0700
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-20 21:43 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2018-07-15 14:04 +0300

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