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Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?

Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Date 2018-06-27 12:24 -0700
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Subject Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead?
From Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com>

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On Wednesday, June 27, 2018 at 2:08:12 PM UTC-4, Marcel Mueller wrote:
> I mentioned this risk a few years ago when Oracle bought Sun. The Java 
> fan-boys at the conference were not amused and called me a fool. ;-)
> 
> But AFAIK this applies only to some non-free addons that ship with JRE. 
> As long as you avoid to use this features it is still free, or did I 
> miss something?
> 
ok, it would kill the language if they get rid of the free use model.  I'd like to see the link of what exactly they want to charge for.

> > Therefore it would be better don't use Java in any FOSS.
> 
> I think it depends. OpenJDK exists.
> 
> But the Java rules require any existing Java implementation to be 
> certified by Oracle. If they change the certification rules they can 
> easily kick any free implementation if they want.
> 
There is a lot of FOSS out there, so again I think it would kill the language if they tried to charge for anything already written that has been free to use.

> > The old gold C++ is more secure.
> 
> For CLI software, fine. But you don't want to write a portable GUI in 
> C++. And it is more complex to learn the language.
> 
Is C++ platform independent?  C# is free to use and write as long as you own a copy of Windows, so that's pretty popular if you don't need platform independence.  The new GUI is all about Javascript/Node/Angular languages all free stuff afaik.

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No more free JRE - Java is dead? slawek <x.y@org.org> - 2018-06-27 09:29 +0200
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 12:00 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 08:24 -0700
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 20:07 +0200
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 12:24 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Marcel Mueller <news.5.maazl@spamgourmet.org> - 2018-06-27 21:50 +0200
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-27 13:35 -0700
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-27 20:38 +0000
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:14 -0400
          Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 19:40 +0000
            Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-28 18:32 -0400
              Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Martin Gregorie <martin@mydomain.invalid> - 2018-06-28 23:15 +0000
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 20:09 -0400
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-06-27 21:07 -0400
  Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Haddock <ffm2002@web.de> - 2018-07-11 23:31 -0700
    Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-14 14:01 -0400
      Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-20 05:51 -0700
        Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2018-07-20 21:43 -0400
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