Path: csiph.com!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Arne_Vajh=c3=b8j?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.programmer Subject: Re: No more free JRE - Java is dead? Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2018 14:01:33 -0400 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Lines: 33 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: PBuS014lhzVyHjLbXmo/ZQ.user.gioia.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Content-Language: en-US X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.3 Xref: csiph.com comp.lang.java.programmer:38486 On 7/12/2018 2:31 AM, Haddock wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 27. Juni 2018 09:29:47 UTC+2 schrieb slawek: >> New Oracle politics restrict free JRE (general computing) to >> non-commercial etc. >> >> The license cost is affordable, but nobody can guarantee future >> prices/rules. > > IMHO, Sun should have done that many years ago. Could have helped > them from going bancrupt. A small amount for the JRE while the JDK > for development remains free would not have harmed the business and > helped them to survive. > > I know most people think differently about this matter, but that is > my opinion. Though I wouldn't have minded Sun charging a bit for the > JRE I certainly do mind now Oracle doing that :-))). First of all there does not seem to be any indication that Oracle has changed the rules fundamentally compared to SUN. General purpose usage is free - embedded usage is for pay. Support of free is limited time wise - support of for pay is very long term. Some details has changed over the years, but nothing fundamental. And I am not so sure that making all production usage for pay would have been a wise move. C++, C#/.NET, PHP etc. are all free at runtime. If Java had meant pay at runtime, then Java would have been at a commercial disadvantage. Arne