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Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more

From Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more
Date 2017-07-13 22:36 -0400
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On 2017-07-13 7:23 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 7/13/2017 6:56 PM, Rhino wrote:
>> On 2017-07-13 6:13 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> On 7/13/2017 6:11 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>>> I have one more symptom to add to the list: I can't execute jars any 
>>>> more, at least not from the desktop.
>>>>
>>>> I recently downloaded a bunch of JavaFX sample apps and put them on 
>>>> a folder which I can access from my desktop. Among the sample apps 
>>>> are Ensemble.jar. Before Eclipse started giving me trouble, I could 
>>>> just click on a jar and it would launch the application in the jar 
>>>> and execute cleanly. Now, nothing happens when I click on the jars 
>>>> in that folder, nothing at all.
>>>>
>>>> I've forgotten exactly what happens under the covers when you click 
>>>> on a jar - which JDK or JRE it tries to use but I only have one of 
>>>> each, both at the 1.8.0.1331 level. That should be sufficient, 
>>>> shouldn't it?
>>>
Sorry, that should be a JDK and a JRE at the *1.8.0.131* level.

>>> Is JAVE_HOME\bin in PATH?

When I checked the value of JAVA_HOME via echo %JAVA_HOME% at a Windows 
command prompt, I found that it was C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.8.0_131.

When I looked at the Path environment variable (the System one), 
JAVA_HOME\bin was NOT there. *However*, the very first thing in Path 
was: C:\ProgramData\Oracle\Java\javapath.

I had a look in *that* directory and guess what I found? A copy of each 
of java.exe, javaw.exe and javaws.exe! I'm wondering if this arrangement 
eliminates the need to have copies of those same programs in 
Windows\System32??

>>
>> I've got two environment variables name Path, one belonging to my user 
>> name and one for the machine. Remind me what Windows does with these? 
>> Does it combine them and search everywhere on both Paths? Or does it 
>> use the personal one when you are signed on with that ID and the other 
>> one the rest of the time?
> 
> I believe Windows merges the two to the actual used PATH.
> 
> I tend to put most stuff under the System PATH, because sometimes
> things are run under a different username.
> 
>>> Does \Windows\System32 have the copies of java.exe, javaw.exe and 
>>> javaws.exe,
>>> that it is supposed to have?
>>
>> It has NONE of those files. But it's a 64-bit Windows so do those 
>> files need to be somewhere else in that case?
> 
> No. \Windows\System32 is actually the 64 bit stuff. The 32 bit stuff are
> in \Windows\SysWow64. No - I don't understand the naming either.
> 
I copied java.exe, javaw.exe and javaws.exe into the \System32 folder 
just to be sure that the absence of those files in that folder was not 
the problem.

Now, I haven't rebooted but that shouldn't be necessary should it? Or 
does Windows not see additions to the library unless I reboot?

Maybe I *should* reboot because putting those three .exe files in 
\System32 did NOT help. Okay, I'll reboot, try Eclipse again, then 
finish this draft post.

I'm back from the reboot and Eclipse *still* isn't working.

>> How do the files get there in the first place? I've *never* manually 
>> copied those files into \Windows\System32 in any Java install I've 
>> ever done. They usually sit in the JDK or JRE which is usually in 
>> C:\Program Files on a 64-bit machine. Do they need to be in 
>> Windows\System32 as well?
> 
> Years ago the Java install seemed to copy the files to that dir.
> 
> For the last many installs that does no longer seem to happen. And
> every time I have updated Java I manually copy them over (I copy
> from JDK bin, but it should not matter whether they are copied
> from JDK or JRE bin).
> 
I have a feeling they've rearranged things somewhat for Windows 10.


-- 
Rhino

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Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 09:33 -0400
  Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-13 10:28 -0400
    Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 11:26 -0400
      Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-13 16:02 -0400
        Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 17:10 -0400
          Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 18:11 -0400
            Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-07-13 18:13 -0400
              Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 18:56 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-07-13 19:23 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 22:36 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-13 22:44 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-14 13:53 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2017-07-14 14:53 -0400
                Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-07-14 19:18 +0000
            Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Andreas Leitgeb <avl@logic.at> - 2017-07-14 07:14 +0000
              Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-14 14:02 -0400
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 11:06 -0700
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2017-07-14 14:49 -0400
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-15 12:15 -0400
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Martin Gregorie <martin@address-in-sig.invalid> - 2017-07-15 19:52 +0000
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-15 16:31 -0400
                Re: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-17 06:04 -0700
                Success! [Was: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more] Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-18 06:33 -0400
                Success! [Was: Can't get [any jar files] to run any more] Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-18 06:27 -0400
            Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2017-07-14 05:23 -0700
          Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more v_borchert@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) - 2017-07-14 19:06 +0000
            Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-15 12:17 -0400
  Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2017-07-13 18:09 +0200
    Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-13 16:58 -0400
      Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Silvio <silvio@internet.com> - 2017-07-15 01:57 +0200
        Re: Can't get Eclipse to run any more Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com> - 2017-07-15 12:01 -0400

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