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Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

From Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Web services/SOA - The right way
Date 2016-08-31 16:23 +0300
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Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:47:39 -0400, Arne Vajhøj:
> On 8/28/2016 10:59 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>> Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:11:21 -0400, Arne Vajhøj:
>>
>>> Fielding's original paper that defined REST section 5.1.3 state:
>>>
>>> <quote>
>>> each request from client to server must contain all of the 
>>> information
>>> necessary to understand the request, and cannot take advantage 
>>> of any
>>> stored context on the server. Session state is therefore kept 
>>> entirely
>>> on the client.
>>> </quote>
>>
>> The relevant resource content/state is certainly always available 
>> when processing a request.
>
> Completely stateless if difficult in practice.

Stateless is an illusion – the resource itself holds/represents a 
state...

> But it is still not the same as using the session object to store 
> service related data.

though the state is not user session specific, yes.

I still think people read specifications too literally, and likely 
miss the basics.

-- 
Stanimir

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Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 03:04 -0700
  Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-14 08:14 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 17:07 +0100
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:49 -0400
  Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 14:00 +0100
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 06:26 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:56 -0400
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 02:48 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 06:36 -0700
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 17:06 -0400
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 05:02 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-17 19:30 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 16:26 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 15:18 -0700
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-18 19:19 -0400
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:39 -0700
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:48 -0700
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-19 20:16 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-17 10:11 +0100
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 00:01 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-22 12:05 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 02:17 -0700
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:20 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 06:24 +0800
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:17 -0400
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 00:15 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 19:47 +0800
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:23 -0400
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-25 19:22 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-25 20:20 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-27 07:49 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-26 20:11 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:15 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:39 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-29 05:59 +0300
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:47 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-31 16:23 +0300
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 21:06 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-08-31 10:00 -0400

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