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Re: Web services/SOA - The right way

From Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk>
Newsgroups comp.lang.java.programmer
Subject Re: Web services/SOA - The right way
Date 2016-09-06 21:06 -0400
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On 8/31/2016 9:23 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:47:39 -0400, Arne Vajhøj:
>> On 8/28/2016 10:59 PM, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
>>> Fri, 26 Aug 2016 20:11:21 -0400, Arne Vajhøj:
>>>
>>>> Fielding's original paper that defined REST section 5.1.3 state:
>>>>
>>>> <quote>
>>>> each request from client to server must contain all of the information
>>>> necessary to understand the request, and cannot take advantage of any
>>>> stored context on the server. Session state is therefore kept entirely
>>>> on the client.
>>>> </quote>
>>>
>>> The relevant resource content/state is certainly always available
>>> when processing a request.
>>
>> Completely stateless if difficult in practice.
>
> Stateless is an illusion – the resource itself holds/represents a state...

That is sort of given by the last 2 letters in REST.

:-)

>> But it is still not the same as using the session object to store
>> service related data.
>
> though the state is not user session specific, yes.
>
> I still think people read specifications too literally, and likely miss
> the basics.

Maybe.

But this sub thread started discussing transaction context and
HTTP session.

I would definitely avoid those for RESTful service.

Arne

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Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-14 03:04 -0700
  Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-14 08:14 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 17:07 +0100
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:49 -0400
  Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-15 14:00 +0100
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-15 06:26 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-15 14:56 -0400
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 02:48 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-16 06:36 -0700
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 17:06 -0400
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-17 05:02 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-17 19:30 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-16 16:26 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-18 15:18 -0700
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-18 19:19 -0400
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:39 -0700
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Eric Douglas <e.d.programmer@gmail.com> - 2016-08-19 10:48 -0700
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-19 20:16 -0400
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Nigel Wade <nmw@local.domain> - 2016-08-17 10:11 +0100
  Re: Web services/SOA  - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-22 00:01 -0700
    Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-22 12:05 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-23 02:17 -0700
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:20 -0400
      Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 06:24 +0800
        Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-23 19:17 -0400
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Alberto Salvati <zzzato@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 00:15 -0700
          Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-24 19:47 +0800
            Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-24 20:23 -0400
              Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-25 19:22 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-25 20:20 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-27 07:49 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-26 20:11 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> - 2016-08-29 10:15 +0800
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:39 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-29 05:59 +0300
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-08-30 20:47 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Stanimir Stamenkov <s7an10@netscape.net> - 2016-08-31 16:23 +0300
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> - 2016-09-06 21:06 -0400
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Lew <lewbloch@gmail.com> - 2016-08-30 22:27 -0700
                Re: Web services/SOA - The right way Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net> - 2016-08-31 10:00 -0400

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