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Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen)

Started byMaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com>
First post2019-02-10 10:56 -0800
Last post2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
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  Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 10:56 -0800
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2019-02-10 20:48 +0100
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-15 11:43 -0800
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-16 04:51 +0000
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-10 12:16 -0800
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-10 15:24 -0800
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:53 -0800
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-11 03:04 -0800
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-10 16:00 -0500
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) bilou <padepub@free.fr> - 2019-02-10 23:42 +0100
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-02-10 23:05 +0000
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-10 18:46 -0500
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2019-02-11 00:33 +0000
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) bilou <padepub@free.fr> - 2019-02-11 03:22 +0100
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-02-10 15:43 -0800
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-10 19:39 -0500
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-10 16:53 -0800
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-10 20:07 -0500
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-10 18:53 -0800
            Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-10 23:47 -0500
            Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2019-06-13 21:27 +1000
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-06-13 14:54 -0700
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> - 2019-06-14 16:49 +1000
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-06-14 03:29 -0400
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-02-11 08:18 -0800
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2019-02-11 11:39 -0500
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-11 08:44 -0800
        Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-11 10:47 -0800
          Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-11 12:22 -0800
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com> - 2019-02-12 11:48 -0800
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-12 12:29 -0800
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@Ster.invalid> - 2019-02-15 00:08 -0500
      Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2019-02-15 11:36 -0800
    Re: Suggestion about Linux/Ubuntu Distro for my hardware (Ryzen) Diesel <nobody@haph.org> - 2019-02-15 04:31 +0000

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#53743

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2019-02-10 23:47 -0500
Message-ID<q3quon$apq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53742
Mike Easter wrote:

> 
> Hopefully he would be able to go/travel to some broadband connectivity 
> place like a nearby library or other publicly accessible broadband 
> connection  temporarily to get some iso/s.

One poster in the groups, drives to Starbucks to do downloads.
And has dialup at home.

I don't know if any libraries have gigabit, as it would be
handy for the amount of downloading that goes on there.

    Paul

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#53824

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9F6F000FA847HT1@1mT48.4Yj82kB23F.yli20635qC57xs2>
In reply to#53742
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
news:gcc6cmFb49dU1@mid.individual.net Mon, 11 Feb 2019 02:53:09 GMT
in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> Paul wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>> MaxTheFast wrote:
>>>> While using lubuntu 12.04 the most problematic issue for me was
>>>> to make my huawei internet usb dongle to work due to the fact
>>>> I've neither wifi nor ethernet connection. Now I'm in the same
>>>> situation with another huawei dongle and I'm afraid to get same
>>>> issues. Anyway that belongs to HW issues and as far as I
>>>> understood my dongle's behaviour will be the same nevermind the
>>>> chosen distro, won't it be? 
>>>
>>> I don't understand 'I've neither wifi nor ethernet'
>>> (connectivity). What is the nature of your connectivity?
>> 
>> The description means he uses 3G and a Cell Tower dongle to
>> connect to the Internet (on a data plan, "tethered").
> 
> I don't know much about tethered 3G connectivity for data, but I
> have a feeling some of my ideas about dl/ing a 'bunch' of .iso/s
> by torrent, which usually provides very fast dl/s on good
> broadband, wouldn't work out at all for him.

The last time (it's been a few years now) I had to resort to 
tethering to grab a large file (it was an iso), it took a very long 
time. It wasn't as slow as dialup of yesteryear, but, it certainly 
reminded me of it. Broadband and higher has spoiled me rotten, it 
would seem.

I tethered my linux laptop to my cellphone, though. I didn't use a 
dongle, so, that could also be an issue of some sort for him in so 
far as support for it is concerned. My laptop just saw the phone as a 
wifi access point and connected to it that way.

Short of extensive googling efforts, the easiest way to find out if a 
distro will support it is to try one and see, imho.

> Hopefully he would be able to go/travel to some broadband
> connectivity place like a nearby library or other publicly
> accessible broadband connection  temporarily to get some iso/s.

If at all possible.


-- 
Cry 'Ribbid' and loose the Frogs of War!

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#56822

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2019-06-13 21:27 +1000
Message-ID<qdtbue$npc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53734
MaxTheFast wrote on 11/02/2019 10:43 AM:
> Ok, I'll just care of getting a distro carrying the newest kernel
> instead of the distro itself. Just a couple of other questions: - I
> saw there're both ubuntu 18.04.1LTS and 18.10 which are the latest
> ones downloadable right now. Should I prefer one of them? I couldn't
> understand what kernels they carry on but as far as I remember I can
> get the latest linux kernel for my ubuntu whenever I want, can't I? -
> Is anything here
> [https://github.com/M-Bab/linux-kernel-amdgpu-binaries] that deals
> with my case? For example: "I have an extremely new AMD GPU (e.g.
> Vega or Raven Ridge) - what should I do? - You should definitely
> install a kernel with display code.[...]". Can be it useful? That's
> arab for me :) - While using lubuntu 12.04 the most problematic issue
> for me was to make my huawei internet usb dongle to work due to the
> fact I've neither wifi nor ethernet connection. Now I'm in the same
> situation with another huawei dongle and I'm afraid to get same
> issues. Anyway that belongs to HW issues and as far as I understood
> my dongle's behaviour will be the same nevermind the chosen distro,
> won't it be? - @J.O. Aho
>> Also you may want to use one that supplies an easy way to install
>> the closed source driver, so debian maybe not too high on your
>> list.
> Sorry but I don't understand "install the closed source driver", can
> you explain that?
> 
> @Paul Hi Paul, glad to read you here. As you see now I'm looking for
> a linux distro. I flashed my mb's bios to the latest version as you
> suggested and next week I'll think about OCing the new ram :) Anyway
> thanks for your support here and there.
> 
Max, I don't know if you're still about, I'm just catching up on old 
posts (maybe you've fixed your problem!!), and, I can say .... "I feel 
your pain"!!

I also use a 3G USB Dongle (HUAWEI brand, model E220, I think!) to 
connect my HP 6730b Laptop to the Internet. I'm posting via my Win7 
System 'cause my MageiaLinux Ver 6.0 has difficulties connecting via the 
Dongle .... Well, at the moment it does!

When I installed MageiaLinux Ver 6.0 in about December 2017, I was very 
please when I could connect 'out of the box', so to speak, just have to 
supply my connection password/stuff and away I went.

Then, in June 2018, I updated my MageiaLinux V6.0.... and was not able 
to connect via the Dongle!! ;-) Win7 was still able to connect.

Then, last weekend, I was messing around and found an un-updated MGA6 
install on my laptop, tried connecting, and Shock!! Horror, it worked!!

Next day, I tried connecting via MGA6 again, and failed!! So here I am, 
again posting via Win7 to a Linux group!!

One Day!! One Day!!

-- 
Daniel

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#56829

FromMaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com>
Date2019-06-13 14:54 -0700
Message-ID<ec90c550-8758-4d5a-b097-5ac971a1d668@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#56822
Hi daniel, sorry for your troubles. I was quite lucky at that time because 1) I solved my graphic issues that caused freezes within ubuntu 18.04.2lts (I got it @ the end and still use it); 2) my 4G dongle worked out of the box (and it was amazing for me).
Win10 gives me an issue with this dongle because when system starts up sometimes this device is recognized and sometimes it isn't and I've to disconnect and reconnect the dongle manually. So this time it works better on linux than windows.

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#56836

FromDaniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org>
Date2019-06-14 16:49 +1000
Message-ID<qdvg2c$nov$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56829
MaxTheFast wrote on 14/06/2019 7:54 AM:
> Hi daniel, sorry for your troubles. I was quite lucky at that time
> because 1) I solved my graphic issues that caused freezes within
> ubuntu 18.04.2lts (I got it @ the end and still use it); 2) my 4G
> dongle worked out of the box (and it was amazing for me). Win10 gives
> me an issue with this dongle because when system starts up sometimes
> this device is recognized and sometimes it isn't and I've to
> disconnect and reconnect the dongle manually. So this time it works
> better on linux than windows.
> 
Hmm! Aren't computer wonderful things?? Well, at least they can keep us 
wondering!!

-- 
Daniel

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#56837

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2019-06-14 03:29 -0400
Message-ID<qdvicv$42e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#56829
MaxTheFast wrote:


> Win10 gives me an issue with this dongle because when 
> system starts up sometimes this device is recognized and 
> sometimes it isn't and I've to disconnect and reconnect 
> the dongle manually. So this time it works better on 
> linux than windows.

The dongle may use firmware, and the device isn't actually
ready when the networking stack probes it.

The recipe here for an unrelated problem, uses "delayed start"
on some services, so they won't access the device quite so fast.
The delayed start is sufficient delay for the system to settle.
The second link below, shows the delay is 120 seconds and
doesn't seem to be adjustable.

https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-shares-a-fix-for-network-problems-on-windows-10-april/

     Delayed Start

     * Computer Browser (Browser)
     * Function Discovery Provider Host (FDPHost)
     * Function Discovery Resource Publication (FDResPub)
     * Network Connections (NetMan)
     * UPnP Device Host (UPnPHost)
     * Peer Name Resolution Protocol (PNRPSvc)
     * Peer Networking Grouping (P2PSvc)
     * Peer Networking Identity Manager (P2PIMSvc)

https://www.sevenforums.com/performance-maintenance/405252-how-do-i-reduce-wait-time-delayed-start-services.html

*******

As a test that it's a timing issue, you could
also configure it for a manual start. If you manually
connect, there's no reason for the above services to
probe a network which isn't started yet.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/help/10739/windows-10-cellular-settings#!en-ca%2Fhelp%2F10739%2Fwindows-10-cellular-settings

    "Let Windows manage this connection"

     Clear the check box if you want to manually connect

   Paul

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#53747

FromMaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-11 08:18 -0800
Message-ID<5ec24505-400d-48d3-848a-d3dc3e21f43b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#53726
Sorry for misunderstanding about my web connectivity but my english is plenty of rust. Yes, I've got a 4G (not 3G) ISP connection based on my phone SIM and I can use this plan to connect to internet by phone (tethering), wifi modem or usb dongle; I've got no smartphone (my choice) so I use a cheap usb dongle. All that due to my almost "gipsy" lifestyle therefore I need mobile connectivity. The ubuntu iso I've just downloaded is 1.8GB and it's taken about 4' by torrent from official site and under winXP; not bad for me. The problem is the plan itself: 30GB/month so if I decide to get a bunch of distros ISOes I can't use internet for much anything else. Due to that I cared of asking a "direction" to point to, mainly on my cgf base and friendlyness, I mean 3-5 distros, anyway I've time to try and decide so I'm going to start with ubuntu and next month I'll get debian or pclinuxos or mint.

The HW/cfg matters ware almost answered by kernel upgrading solution so as a very newbie at this point I guess the most important question for me would be: if I'll get any trouble with a certain distro due to HW/SW reasons what will be the best thing to do, trying another distro or trying to solve the matter within the distro itself? Due to that I'm going to start with ubuntu: it seems to have my native language's largest community.

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#53748

FromPaul <nospam@needed.invalid>
Date2019-02-11 11:39 -0500
Message-ID<q3s8fj$f7n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#53747
MaxTheFast wrote:
> Sorry for misunderstanding about my web connectivity but my english is plenty of rust. Yes, I've got a 4G (not 3G) ISP connection based on my phone SIM and I can use this plan to connect to internet by phone (tethering), wifi modem or usb dongle; I've got no smartphone (my choice) so I use a cheap usb dongle. All that due to my almost "gipsy" lifestyle therefore I need mobile connectivity. The ubuntu iso I've just downloaded is 1.8GB and it's taken about 4' by torrent from official site and under winXP; not bad for me. The problem is the plan itself: 30GB/month so if I decide to get a bunch of distros ISOes I can't use internet for much anything else. Due to that I cared of asking a "direction" to point to, mainly on my cgf base and friendlyness, I mean 3-5 distros, anyway I've time to try and decide so I'm going to start with ubuntu and next month I'll get debian or pclinuxos or mint.
> 
> The HW/cfg matters ware almost answered by kernel upgrading solution so as a very newbie at this point I guess the most important question for me would be: if I'll get any trouble with a certain distro due to HW/SW reasons what will be the best thing to do, trying another distro or trying to solve the matter within the distro itself? Due to that I'm going to start with ubuntu: it seems to have my native language's largest community.

I think you have things under control.

One step at a time :-)

    Paul

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#53750

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-11 08:44 -0800
Message-ID<gcdn2rFld7eU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53747
MaxTheFast wrote:
> Yes, I've got a 4G (not 3G) ISP connection based on my phone SIM and I can use this plan to connect to internet by phone (tethering), wifi modem or usb dongle; I've got no smartphone (my choice) so I use a cheap usb dongle. All that due to my almost "gipsy" lifestyle therefore I need mobile connectivity. 

I understand.  You have decent connectivity speed that way, but you are 
capped at 30G/mo

> The ubuntu iso I've just downloaded is 1.8GB and it's taken about 4' by torrent from official site and under winXP; not bad for me. The problem is the plan itself: 30GB/month so if I decide to get a bunch of distros ISOes I can't use internet for much anything else. Due to that I cared of asking a "direction" to point to, mainly on my cgf base and friendlyness, I mean 3-5 distros, anyway I've time to try and decide so I'm going to start with ubuntu and next month I'll get debian or pclinuxos or mint.

I'll keep your data limits in mind in my advice.  But in your 
circumstance you want to get something that works first, and then later 
to fine-tune what might be better or more appealing.  The big advantage 
of the 18.04 compared to 18.10 is the LTS aspect, LTS is supported until 
2028 vs 2019 Jul for the 18.10.  But, the big advantage of the 18.10 for 
working fine outofthebox or a less 'severe' kernel upgrade to make your 
Ryzen happy.

That is, I would lean toward booting 18.10 first with or without 
tweaking it; then if that works out OK, try to make the LTS 18.04 work 
for the convenience of its long support.

> The HW/cfg matters ware almost answered by kernel upgrading solution so as a very newbie at this point I guess the most important question for me would be: if I'll get any trouble with a certain distro due to HW/SW reasons what will be the best thing to do, trying another distro or trying to solve the matter within the distro itself? Due to that I'm going to start with ubuntu: it seems to have my native language's largest community.

In my opinion as an 'intermediate' not a guru, it is important for 
things to just work or need a small tweak.  I can't solve problems with 
a hammer and chisel like some can do with the command line, because they 
know what they are doing.

Your GG headers look like you are in NW (northwest) Italy.  That would 
be near where the Winter Olympics were in 2006, so you might not be far 
from snow skiing.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#53753

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-11 10:47 -0800
Message-ID<gcdu9hFmvvlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53750
Mike Easter wrote:
> I would lean toward booting 18.10 first with or without tweaking it; 
> then if that works out OK, try to make the LTS 18.04 work for the 
> convenience of its long support.

Here's a positive report on using 18.10:

"I recently built a PC with an Asus Prime A320M-K motherboard, a Ryzen 3 
2200G and 2x8GB Corsair 2400MHz RAM. After updating the BIOS to the most 
recent version, I installed Kubuntu 18.10 (it ships with kernel 4.18). I 
have not had any issues while web browsing or video streaming yet. There 
are no booting issues at the moment, except that the splash screen does 
not show."
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1070956/how-well-do-amd-raven-ridge-apus-work-with-linux-now

On the same page, another person who didn't name his distro, but it was 
probably 18.04, booted live with nomodeset boot parameter and used the 
kernel updater ULUU to up his kernel to 4.18.  I would do that with a 
live with persistence as opposed to installed and of course you couldn't 
just do it live because you need to reboot the kernel.

I've done persistence with both Win Yumi and Linux mkusb and now I 
prefer mkusb over Yumi.  One way to achieve the persistence goal 
starting from a Win system is to have two USB sticks.  Apparently you 
have an older system running XP.  Use that to make an Ub 18.10 whatever 
DE, Gnome, Mate, etc using such as Win Rufus.  XFCE would probably be 
the lightest if the XP hardware is old, ie Xubuntu 18.10.

Then boot that live, and install mkusb on it.  Then use that live with 
mksub to make another USB stick which is Xub 18.10 with persistence.  So 
far there would be only the one .iso dl.

Then use that Xub 18.10 with persistence on the Ryzen machine to see how 
it boots.

If you want LTS, you would 'eventually' work your way back to one of the 
18.04 Ubs with persistence and boot that with nomodeset and no gfx 
acceleration and install ULUU to upgrade the kernel to 4.18.  That 
kernel leap is not without 'risk' (of breaking) so that is why I would 
do it on a live USB with persistence first.

If all that worked out OK on the live USB w/ persistence, you could 
install to the hdd of the Ryzen machine.



-- 
Mike Easter

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#53755

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-11 12:22 -0800
Message-ID<gce3snFo6ffU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53753
Mike Easter wrote:
> If you want LTS, you would 'eventually' work your way back to one of the 
> 18.04 Ubs with persistence and boot that with nomodeset and no gfx 
> acceleration and install ULUU to upgrade the kernel to 4.18.  That 
> kernel leap is not without 'risk' (of breaking) so that is why I would 
> do it on a live USB with persistence first.

I booted a live Ub 18.04 Mate and installed UKUU.  It provides a wealth 
(too many?) choices of kernels from 4.0.xx to 4.20.x and there are a LOT 
of xx/s.

I haven't been able to determine if there is any advantage to anything 
over 4.18 and I don't know if one should use 4.18.20 as opposed to one 
of the lower 4.18.nn.

I would not immediately assume that the higher the kernel v. the better, 
because my instinct tells me there is more 'danger' in a greater kernel 
leap for a distro which is based on kernel 4.15.  That is, why go any 
higher than enough to suit the Ryzen you have.

That is another reason for experimenting with the live USB with 
persistence first.

Also, UKUU is now going 'commercial' with its newest upgrade.  The one 
in the .ppa is free, but when run it offers to upgrade if you buy a 
license for $11.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#53794

FromMaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com>
Date2019-02-12 11:48 -0800
Message-ID<3d7fdcc3-7cba-4867-8797-c0873858aac1@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#53726
Today I had time to try and all seems alright now. I installed ubuntu 18.04.1LTS in dual boot with windows 10 (already present) on an already partitioned HDD (win, linux root, linux home) with my cfg. This is how I managed my goal with success, of course some steps/actions could be useless but I'll write down everything worked for my case anyway:

*setting flash drive, windows10, bios
- put ubuntu iso in a flash drive with rufus 2.18p under windows xp (another laptop not directly involved in this installation). note that in this case (linux iso distro) my rufus version downloaded some files (dlls?) from the web in real time to make the iso works on the flash drive;
- disable "fast boot" (I guess this is the english translation) in win10;
- set ram @2400 stock value in bios to ensure no ram problems;
- disable "secure boot" in bios: settings - advanced - Windows OS Configuration - secure boot. note: in my case "Windows 10 WHQL Support" was disabled by default therefore "secure boot" was not present. I enabled "Windows 10 WHQL Support" for 1st then I saw "secure boot" was disable by default and kept as it were.
note: exiting the bios the following change appears too: "csm support: enable->disable". I don't know what it means but I won't give troubles.

*rebooting from flash drive
grub 2.02
press "e" (to edit the commands before booting) and consider the longest line, I mean the one with ---
after the --- add the following 2 parameters:
vga=791 nomodeset
before --- erase "quite" (maybe "splash" too but honestly I don't remember anymore, sorry)

*live environment
some videos were played correctly, I didn't check the audio outputs anyway
I tried to put the usb internet dongle and it run automatically, I mean setting no ISP, better than windows xp. that was simply amazing, I could connect the web within live!
chosen the basic installation (no upgrades, ok 3rd party sw)
do not unmount partition in use (/dev/sda)
kind of installation: other
formatted my 2 linux partitions (root, home) with "mount point" /, /home
installation itself took 6'

*rebooting without flash drive, setting bios
bios - settings - boot - uefi hard disk drive bbs priorities:
boot option#1 [ubuntu]
boot option#2 [windows]

That's all. Now from terminal:
uname -r
4.15.0-45-generic
lsb_release -a
ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS bionic

I know I risked with the older 18.04 instead of the newer 18.10 but I wanted to try. Before starting I reminded some years ago I tried to install lubuntu 14 (or 16, I don't remember anymore) on my old notebook and I got graphic problems then I searched a solution and I found out those parameters "vga=791 nomodeset" written above and that installation was completed with success. Due to that experience I've risked this time else I'd have tried the 18.10 as Mike Easter suggested.
This is the 1st step and my problem was solved with ubuntu so thank you.

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#53796

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-12 12:29 -0800
Message-ID<gcgokiFbhiiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53794
MaxTheFast wrote:

> vga=791 nomodeset

nomodeset works, but I think the vga= boot parameter doesn't 'take' any 
more.  It has been deprecated in favor of other similar approaches to 
what that parameter does.

We'll find out more about the graphics below.

> uname -r
> 4.15.0-45-generic
> lsb_release -a
> ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS bionic
> 
> I know I risked with the older 18.04 instead of the newer 18.10 but I wanted to try. Before starting I reminded some years ago I tried to install lubuntu 14 (or 16, I don't remember anymore) on my old notebook and I got graphic problems then I searched a solution and I found out those parameters "vga=791 nomodeset" written above and that installation was completed with success. Due to that experience I've risked this time else I'd have tried the 18.10 as Mike Easter suggested.

In the past with some video problem/solutions the vga= parameter was 
useful to help the algorithm solve some issues by providing resolution 
help.  The important thing is that you weren't faced with a black screen 
and likely the nomodeset paremeter helped with that.

Some 'buntu/s come with the helpful inxi script 'pre-installed' and some 
do not.  If it is already installed, then the command inxi will work. 
If it is not pre-installed then the command will tell you that you can 
simply install inxi from the repos with sudo apt install inxi (or apt-get).

Simply running inxi without options only tells you some brief hardware 
info and running inxi -h will tell you the vast wealth of options and 
reports the script can give.  We are interested in the -G option:

inxi -G

That will tell you more about the graphics you are running.  Here's mine:

$ inxi -G
Graphics:
   Device-1: AMD Richland [Radeon HD 8470D] driver: radeon v: kernel
   Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: ati,radeon
   unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa resolution: 1280x1024~60Hz
   OpenGL: renderer: AMD ARUBA (DRM 2.50.0 / 4.15.0-20-generic LLVM 6.0.0)
   v: 4.3 Mesa 18.0.5


It is likely that you might need to up your kernel to get full benefit 
of your Ryzen.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#53825

FromMike Easter <MikeE@Ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-15 00:08 -0500
Message-ID<gcmvqqFmkr9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53794
MaxTheFast wrote:
>   I installed ubuntu 18.04.1LTS in dual boot with windows 10

I was using a Mate Ub 18.04 live w/ persistence and UKUU and made some 
attempts to install a newer kernel which didn't work out.

I also recently booted a live MX 18.1 which is a Deb + XFCE w/ a recent 
kernel 4.19.
MX is an interesting disrtro.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#53838

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2019-02-15 11:36 -0800
Message-ID<gcoilhF31dlU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#53794
MaxTheFast wrote:
> I installed ubuntu 18.04.1LTS in dual boot with windows 10 (already present)

Good news from the Ub 18.04 current update; it goes to kernel 4.18 from 
4.15.  That should improve Ryzen without any need for UKUU and the 
hazards of getting a kernel not specific for your distro.

That kernel is also the one in the recent release of 18.04.2 .iso.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#53823

FromDiesel <nobody@haph.org>
Date2019-02-15 04:31 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA9F6F0008549AHT1@1mT48.4Yj82kB23F.yli20635qC57xs2>
In reply to#53726
MaxTheFast <gipsy.shadow.84@gmail.com>
news:5e1bb5ea-3b16-44d7-9b9f-a297de15305f@googlegroups.com Sun, 10
Feb 2019 18:56:46 GMT in alt.os.linux, wrote: 

> I've just built a PC with this following cgf:
> - amd ryzen 3 2200g 3.5Ghz with vega8 integrated graphics;
> - MB msi b450-a pro with latest bios V10.4 dec.2018;
> - ram 2x4gb kingston hiperx predator 3200mhz cl16
> 
> I'm a linux very newbie because I had used only lubuntu 12.04 many
> years ago for a while so I can say now I'm going to start from
> zero. 

okay...

> Afaik there've always been some problems related to graphics
> in linux environments so I wonder if I'll get any with the vega
> graphics; 

With some of the newer mainline distro's using more recent kernels 
and drivers, this shouldn't be an issue for you. As always though, 
YMMV.

> I won't get a dedicated graph card. I'll use win10 for
> most of my SW but I'd like to use VLC and play streaming web
> videos in linux with no graphic troubles, if it's possible.

I use vlc quite a bit on Linux Mint, and MxLinux without any troubles 
on a variety of different desktops (towers really) and laptops. Works 
well for me.
 
> Unluckly my ram works @2400mhz 17-17-17-39 1.368V by default on
> that cfg but I can switch on a-xmp profile2 @2933 15-17-17-36
> 1.368V and it works good the same and I guess it's safe for my
> system's "health" on the long period, isn't it? 

You'll likely opt to buy/build another computer before it dies. 
 
> That said I ask: should I avoid some linux distros for graphic
> troubles related to ryzen? will I get troubles due to OCed ram in
> linux? what linux distros can you suggest for my system stability,
> my graphics and friendlyness? I'd prefer an ubuntu DE due to its
> community support but I'll consider everything anyway (eg. Mint). 

You should checkout some of the newer distros, boot them with a live 
USB stick and have a look around. If you see one you like, install it 
and see if it works well with your system and you still like it. If 
you don't, you can always checkout another one. :)

I've been happy with Mint 17.3KDE (I don't recommend it for your 
system though; it's much older and is reaching EOL soon) and MxLinux 
17.1 - 18 looks nice, I just don't have it installed locally yet. 
MxLinux might be something you'd want to checkout. 

https://mxlinux.org







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