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Re: Cars, engines...

From rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Cars, engines...
Date 2025-12-12 06:58 +0000
Message-ID <mq1sofFi5cdU2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (12 earlier) <51ahjklsu5lfhmac7rm518jqgb7g2h2n5c@4ax.com> <10hbi4e$1di3b$12@dont-email.me> <kuhq0mxsfg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <mq0rc5Fcdl6U3@mid.individual.net> <h2cs0mxutr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor>

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On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 03:42:57 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

> I never drove an automatic car.

She was around 70 when I had to convince my mother she could drive an 
automatic. She'd only been driving since 1921 and had taught her father 
how to drive. She adapted to AT, power brakes, and power steering nicely.

My first car was an automatic but I eventually replaced the tired 
Torqueflight with a manual. Easier said than done.

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        Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
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                Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
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                Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:37 +0000
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                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
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              Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
                Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:15 +0000
                Cars, motors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:16 +0100
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:18 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:30 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:59 -0500
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:46 +0000
                Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:11 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:28 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:42 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 21:49 -0800
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 07:09 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:19 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:26 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:19 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:27 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:49 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:48 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 15:40 -0800
                Re: Cars, engines... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-12-13 19:32 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:08 -0800
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 01:32 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-13 21:14 -0800
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 01:33 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:18 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:26 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 13:20 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:29 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:00 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:45 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:15 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:02 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:45 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:28 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:37 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-17 00:42 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-17 01:02 +0000
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                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 15:39 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 20:59 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-13 02:52 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:11 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-14 03:48 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 08:50 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:51 +0100
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                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 21:03 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:03 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:59 +0100
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                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:27 +0100
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                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:23 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 22:17 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:57 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:58 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:23 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-17 23:11 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:29 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 17:31 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:50 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 00:13 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:18 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 02:08 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:44 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:46 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:12 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 20:29 +0100
                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:54 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 23:01 +1100
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 22:24 -0500
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                Re: Cars, engines... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
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                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 06:52 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-12 02:19 -0500
                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 08:14 +0000
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                Re: Cars, engines... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 06:03 +0000
                Re: Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 14:25 +0100
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