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Re: Wheels

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Wheels
Date 2025-12-12 14:44 +0100
Message-ID <2rit0mxofv.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (21 earlier) <mprektFfrgiU1@mid.individual.net> <10hbhu6$1di3b$11@dont-email.me> <JzCdnUYVx_m1z6T0nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com> <pgiq0mxsfg.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <mq0r1uFcdl6U2@mid.individual.net>

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On 2025-12-11 22:23, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:20:41 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-12-10 11:57, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/10/25 05:27, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>> On 09/12/2025 20:20, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Otherwise a flat tyre would tear itself off the rim'
>>>
>>>     Umm ... they DO ... or at least TRY. It's just that the rim is too
>>>     stiff to 'tear' much unless under extreme load. HAVE seen it on
>>>     18-wheelers ...
>>>     entire giant tire breaking loose, then rolling at 80mph and
>>>     bouncing randomly off an overpass. Deadly if you were in the path
>>>     .....
>>
>> Once I overtook a lorry, very early morning. One of the rear wheels
>> was... how can I say... the sides of the rubber were intact, but the
>> part that touches the asphalt was loose, turning wildly at the 100Km/h
>> the lorry was doing. We were bewildered, not knowing what to do.
> 
> The resulting debris is referred to as an 'alligator' here.
> 
> https://www.sttc.com/where-do-road-alligators-come-from/
> 
> The site might be biased since they're retreaders. I don't know if it was
> legislation or economics but there used to be retreaded passenger car
> tires but for big trucks retreads are widely used , usually on the
> trailers.

I forgot about retreading. Yes, it was a thing for passenger cars in 
1950..1980 in Spain (guessing the range).

> 
> Theoretically you're supposed to check the inflation daily but with 18
> tires the common practice is to 'thump' them. A 6-cell Maglite is good for
> that. The correct inflation is 100-110 psi but a tire down to 60 psi still
> sounds the same. It has to be really low before you get sort of a dead
> sound.
> 
> I haven't driven in 30 years so I don't know if TPMS are common now.
> They're certainly available
> 
> https://www.noregon.com/commercial-tire-pressure-monitoring-systems/
> 
> Even in the '90s a new 22.5 tire ran about $275 so getting the most life
> out of them made sense.

My current car has pressure sensors on the 4 wheels. I can read the 
values in the dash display. I think the sensor is in the valve, with a 
battery and a radio.

Two weeks ago I was driving a courtesy car while my car was in the 
garage: same type of car, an Opel Corsa, but newer. It doesn't measure 
the pressure; instead it alerts you of low pressure. It actually 
activated one night, and I had to go to a station to fill air. The meter 
there said 1.8 or 1.9 Kg/cm². Minimum rated was 2.2, max close to 3. So 
I inflated to 2.5, same as my car.

Once inflated, you press a button to reset the sensors. I prefer the 
system in my car.

I think some system of the sort is currently  mandatory in the EU.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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