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| From | Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Cars, engines... |
| Date | 2025-12-13 21:08 -0800 |
| Organization | dis |
| Message-ID | <10hlgpa$nlfl$1@dont-email.me> (permalink) |
| References | (16 earlier) <h2cs0mxutr.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10hgacn$2nb2a$1@dont-email.me> <nbht0mxp8m.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10hktgl$h6vb$1@dont-email.me> <693e0587$0$27$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com> |
Cross-posted to 2 groups.
On 12/13/25 16:32, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-12-13 6:40 p.m., Bobbie Sellers wrote: >> >> >> On 12/12/25 05:19, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>> On 2025-12-12 06:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>>> On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote: >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The next car my father bought, a Peugeot 205, was the first we >>>>>>> had with >>>>>>> hydraulic clutch, same reservoir as the brakes. Bought maybe 1984. I >>>>>>> remember the first time I drove it, my father warned me the >>>>>>> brakes were >>>>>>> brutal. Yet I was surprised by them, the car stopped brutally. >>>>>>> Vacuum >>>>>>> servo-assist. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't think they do it as much anymore but automatic >>>>>> transmission cars >>>>>> used to have very wide brake pedals, presumably to allow for >>>>>> braking with >>>>>> your left foot. Brutal was when your manual transmission muscle >>>>>> memory >>>>>> kicked in, you attempted to hit the clutch pedal, and got the brake >>>>>> instead. >>>>> >>>>> I never drove an automatic car. >>>>> >>>>> I guess my left leg kicks differently than my right, because the >>>>> pedals have different feeling, specially when the brake was not >>>>> assisted and I had to push really hard (decades ago). >>>>> >>>>> Steering was also an exercise. No servo. Cars were lighter, though. >>>>> Not over a ton. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Ah you are a European with sensible designers. In the USA a car >>>> that weighed under a ton would be foreign made except for a few >>>> lightweights back in the 1930s. >>> > I do not think a family sedan such as my parents used weighed >>> under > 2 tons. Of course that time was over 68 years ago. And >>> steering was >>>> real exercise and brakes were unassisted. >>> Uff. >>> >>> Did they crash often, I wonder? Difficult to stop a 2 ton box of >>> metal in time. >>> >> >> We in the USA have many lighter cars now and we still have horrible >> multicar accidents usually caused by going faster than safe in bad >> conditions >> which include road surfaces and visibility in heavy fogs or even storms. >> We had accidents yesterday in the San Francisco Bay Area involving >> cars driving too fast in fog. On first responder saved his life by >> leaping >> out of the way but they still hit his leg. >> >> In Sacramento, California in the years I was in HS 1951-1955 the >> authorities parked heavily damaged cars on significant street corners to >> show the people and young people especially how driving badly could >> end. >> I don't know the current yearly death counts but not long ago >> it was about the same as a medium war. >> >> Tomahawks for the Ukraine. >> >> bliss > > You must be blessed to have lived as long as you have. Good health to you. > Not possible because my illness started showing its symptoms when I was about 46 years old. I can no longer do real physical work as I did when younger and no doctor I contacted in those early days had any idea what was wrong. Even after I read Hillary Johnson's work "Osler's Web" I refused to believe that exercise would not help me. I wanted after all to get well. Exercise or properly exertion per se results in the condition known as brain fog. I am pretty clear headed today because I have done little beside read on Usenet and deal with email for several days since I have been feeling a bit under the weather. Blessed is a funny term. It refers to the sacrifice, human life or lesser lives being prepared for sacrifice with oil aka chrism and salt. The deities apparently lived on the smoke and wanted it seasoned properly. bliss - just another old sourpuss
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