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Re: Cars, engines...

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Cars, engines...
Date 2025-12-12 20:59 +0100
Message-ID <dq8u0mxreu.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
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On 2025-12-12 16:39, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
> On 12/12/2025 13:32, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-12 06:49, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>> On 12/11/25 18:42, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>>> On 2025-12-11 22:28, rbowman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 11:11:00 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:


>>
>> My Renault Super 5 TL weighted 850 Kg (1874 pounds). A 42 horse engine 
>> (31KW). If memory serves. I could do 140Km/h on a flat.
>>
> 
> I'm driving a Seat Ibiza as a courtesy car. 3 cylinder engine, 5 speed 
> manual, more bhp than my old British sports cars ever had (not sure, but 
> think 85) and 60+ miles to the (UK) gallon. Weight is about 1000kg. Will 
> exceed legal road speeds given a bit of time

3 cylinders! I thought only Japanese did those.

My second car was an Ibiza. Diesel engine, 1.9 litres. 65 horses (48KW)? 
No turbo. Mechanical injection. Drank too much. Not speedy, but good enough.

> 
> 
> You could probably fit two in the average US parking slot.
> Of all the shitty European shopping trolleys, I always found Seat and 
> Skoda to be above average and not expensive.

I intended to buy another Ibiza as third car, but it was just some 15 cm 
longer and would no longer fit inside my parking garage. The same dealer 
sold Opel, and the chap tested the demo Corsa in my garage. I bought it. 
Also a diesel, but turbo. Would accelerate very nicely. Around 80 or 90 
horses (58..66 KW). I now have another Corsa, but gasoline. Less 
acceleration than the diesel, has no turbo.

> 
> 
> Fiats fall to pieces.
> VWs cost too much
> Renault are just awful Worse then any British Leyland car ever was.
> Peugeots rust.
> Vauxhall/Opel are just plain boring.
> Toyota think they are designing space ships, but they cant handle being 
> on terra firma at all.
> Ford are pretty good these days.
> 

:-)

> None of these worth importing to the USA because of Big Beautiful Tariffs,.

Heh.

-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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