Re: Shareholder primacy

From	rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: Shareholder primacy
Date	2025-12-04 23:18 +0000
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 11:08:59 -0800, John Ames wrote:

> It's not "if," but "when" - and it's *not* gonna be pretty. Just the
> other day I had to spend several hours trying to convince myself I had
> *any* interest in stocks for long enough to get my 401(k) out of the
> default "invest everything in the absolute biggest players on the
> market" setting and into funds based around companies that actually
> *make* things, which might at least stand a chance of not cratering...

I never did 401K, just the yearly contribution to a standard IRA. Even 
that was more for the tax deduction than anything else. I had friends who 
told me how I was missing out as they checked their portfolios hourly. 
They all went radio silent after dotcom went boom.

When I was married we met with an honest Merrill Lynch salesman. He said 
if we wouldn't be comfortable putting the money on a table in Vegas to 
stay out of the market. We thanked him and took his advice. She had as 
much interest as I in stocks, which is to say zero. Neither of us is 
starving these days and don't have any family left so how much better we 
might have done is moot.

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                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:02 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-10 23:00 -0600
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 01:28 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:27 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:14 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 10:58 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:10 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:23 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:38 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:22 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:31 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:10 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:30 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 23:09 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:03 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:37 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:09 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:43 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:17 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 21:27 -0800
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 01:42 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:16 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 07:03 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:05 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:11 +0000
                Dog poo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:51 +0100
                Re: Dog poo knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:08 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:37 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:01 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:23 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:12 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 21:57 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:13 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 22:22 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:17 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 05:00 -0500
                Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:49 +0100
                Re: Garbage bags knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:10 -0500
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:58 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:46 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:02 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:47 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:44 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:51 -0500
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:24 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:44 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-10 21:26 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:30 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:37 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:08 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:21 +1100
                Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:14 +1100
                Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 06:40 -0500
                Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:53 +0000
                Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:55 +0100
                Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:47 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:45 +1100
                Autoblock feature of shopping carts. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:14 +0100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 15:04 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:10 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:41 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:57 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:49 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 01:29 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:29 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:03 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:03 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:13 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:14 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:21 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:58 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 03:13 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:14 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:52 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:15 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:44 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 21:56 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:04 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:46 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 01:41 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:46 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:06 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:12 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:42 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:38 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:19 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:33 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:25 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:48 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:51 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:05 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:57 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:09 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:03 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:21 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:49 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:12 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 21:14 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:24 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:13 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:32 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:14 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:36 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:07 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:41 -0500
                Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:25 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:00 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:33 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:32 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:56 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:24 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:43 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:11 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:48 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:18 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:33 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:20 +1100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:41 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:35 -0500
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:09 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:53 +1100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:08 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:18 +1100
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:50 -0500
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:05 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:17 -0500
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:18 -0500
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:52 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:16 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 08:58 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:49 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:45 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:28 -0500
                GPS Based Speedometers Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-09 12:47 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 08:14 -0500
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:13 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:35 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:52 -0500
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:37 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-12-09 16:24 +0100
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:46 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 21:31 -0500
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
                Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:15 +0000
                Cars, motors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:16 +0100
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:18 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:30 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:59 -0500
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:46 +0000
                Cars, engines... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:11 +0100
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:50 +1100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:48 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:50 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:21 +1100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:56 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:47 -0500
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:39 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:08 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:57 +1100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:09 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:50 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:11 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:20 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:27 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:57 -0500
                Wheels "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:20 +0100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:20 +0100
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:22 -0500
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 11:22 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:54 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 22:23 +1100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500
                Re: Double booting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:19 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:02 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-06 07:59 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:20 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:54 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:34 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:22 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 23:26 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:16 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 21:41 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:51 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:32 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:43 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:09 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:43 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:31 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:15 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:21 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:40 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:53 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:55 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:27 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:09 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 01:56 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:27 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:41 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:37 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:19 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:26 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:37 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:57 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:30 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:46 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:40 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:46 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 16:53 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:18 +0000
                Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 00:10 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:28 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:24 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:24 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 11:08 -0800
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 23:18 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 03:55 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-05 18:45 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 04:24 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:55 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:48 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:33 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:52 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:44 +1100
                Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:40 +1100
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:38 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:12 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:35 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:26 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:20 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:28 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:06 -0800
                Re: Shareholder primacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-04 14:36 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-01 12:25 -0600
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:35 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 19:19 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:29 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:42 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:13 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-03 14:44 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:39 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:51 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:41 +0100
              Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:29 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:12 -0500
          Re: The "Standards" Game Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-11-28 17:29 +0000
            Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:37 +0000

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