Re: The "Standards" Game

From	The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject	Re: The "Standards" Game
Date	2025-11-30 18:13 +0000
Organization	A little, after lunch
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On 30/11/2025 16:54, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-11-30, The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> On 29/11/2025 20:25, rbowman wrote:
>>
>>> Then there's the F35 and other disasters.
>>
>> Indeed.
>>
>> "close enough for government work" is a standard phrase.
> 
> Here in Canada we're considering whether to supplement our upcoming
> F-35 purchase with Sweden's Gripen; considerations resemble a decision
> on whether to purchase an unlocked phone.
> 
> Comedy shows are already showing photos of a Gripen with an IKEA logo
> stenciled on the side, and are making cracks about the Allen key that
> comes with the jets for assembly.
> 
Lockheed Martin subsiding comedy again?
F-35 is a plane for a war that never happened and probably never will.

People looking at Ukraine realize what is going to be needed, and its 
not F35s

>> Also "good enough for jazz", referring to the atonal nature of most of it.
> 
> "Do it once, it's a mistake; do it twice, it's jazz."
> 
Exactly.

-- 
“it should be clear by now to everyone that activist environmentalism 
(or environmental activism) is becoming a general ideology about humans, 
about their freedom, about the relationship between the individual and 
the state, and about the manipulation of people under the guise of a 
'noble' idea. It is not an honest pursuit of 'sustainable development,' 
a matter of elementary environmental protection, or a search for 
rational mechanisms designed to achieve a healthy environment. Yet 
things do occur that make you shake your head and remind yourself that 
you live neither in Joseph Stalin’s Communist era, nor in the Orwellian 
utopia of 1984.”

Vaclav Klaus

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Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:18 +0000
  Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-26 14:33 +0000
    Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 17:02 +0000
      Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-27 13:51 +0000
        Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 14:40 +0000
        Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:28 +0000
          Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:09 -0500
          Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-28 15:00 +0000
            Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 15:09 +0000
        Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 01:39 -0500
          Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 13:02 +0100
            Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:47 +0000
            Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:35 +0000
              Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-29 08:14 +1000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:41 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-29 16:55 +1000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:11 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-29 21:39 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:22 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 19:53 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:22 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:46 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:35 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:35 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:21 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 00:49 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:18 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:48 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:51 +0000
                Robocalls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 22:40 +0100
                Re: Robocalls c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:34 -0500
                Re: Robocalls Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
                Re: Robocalls The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:21 +0000
                Re: Robocalls Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:40 +0000
                Re: Robocalls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-04 21:37 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:09 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-05 19:39 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 20:54 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:56 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-06 13:30 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:48 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-06 15:11 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:51 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-06 15:07 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 18:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:47 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 23:27 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:08 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:46 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 00:13 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 04:55 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 00:55 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 06:38 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:01 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 04:58 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 21:16 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:37 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-08 17:41 +0000
                Old people. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:07 +0100
                Re: Old people. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:29 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:53 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:55 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 00:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:40 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
                emergency number routing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:41 +0100
                Re: emergency number routing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:48 -0500
                Re: emergency number routing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:13 +0100
                Re: emergency number routing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 04:37 +0000
                Re: emergency number routing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
                Re: emergency number routing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 06:57 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:29 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:10 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:07 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:57 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:04 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 21:50 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:06 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:10 +1100
                Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-05 14:48 +0000
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 15:30 +0000
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 18:55 +0100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:36 +1100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-06 13:37 +0000
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-06 14:46 +0100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:30 +1100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-12-07 02:46 +0200
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 23:48 +1100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 12:35 -0500
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:35 +1100
                Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 21:19 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 17:15 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:32 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:37 +0000
              Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 02:42 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:45 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:03 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 21:47 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 04:12 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:36 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:49 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:28 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:44 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-02 13:05 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:35 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:16 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 05:20 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:14 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:27 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:07 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:30 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:20 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 05:11 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:25 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:11 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:59 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:58 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:22 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:54 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 18:59 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:55 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:43 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 19:56 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 19:53 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:16 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:39 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:08 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:51 -0500
            Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:16 -0500
              Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:18 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:25 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:59 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:30 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:45 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:46 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:24 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:54 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 13:04 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 18:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 19:20 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:53 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-01 00:10 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:57 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 01:34 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-01 03:40 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:50 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:28 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:57 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:47 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:06 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:42 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:40 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 13:05 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:44 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:27 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 23:53 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 12:51 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:08 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 14:37 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:49 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-08 13:55 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 12:32 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:30 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 04:12 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:29 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 14:23 -0800
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:15 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 20:44 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:56 +0000
                Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:10 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 07:56 -0800
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:45 +1100
                Autoblock feature of shopping carts. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:14 +0100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 15:04 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:10 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:41 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:57 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:49 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 01:29 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:29 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:03 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:03 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:13 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:14 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:21 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:58 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 03:13 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:14 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:52 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:15 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:44 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 21:56 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:04 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:46 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 01:41 -0500
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:46 +1100
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:06 +0000
                Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:42 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:38 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:19 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:33 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:25 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:48 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:51 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:05 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:57 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:09 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:03 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:21 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:49 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:12 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 21:14 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:24 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:13 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:32 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:14 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:36 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:07 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:41 -0500
                Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:25 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:00 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:33 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:32 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:56 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:24 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:43 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:11 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:48 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:18 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:33 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:20 +1100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:41 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:35 -0500
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:09 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:53 +1100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:08 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:50 -0500
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:28 -0500
                GPS Based Speedometers Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-09 12:47 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 08:14 -0500
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:13 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:35 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:52 -0500
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-12-09 16:24 +0100
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
                Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:46 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
                Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:50 +1100
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:48 +0100
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:50 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:46 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:47 -0500
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:39 +0000
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:08 +0000
                Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:57 +1100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:09 +0000
                Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:50 +0100
                Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:11 +0000
                Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:20 +0000
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000
                Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000
                Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500
                Re: Double booting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:19 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:02 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-06 07:59 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:20 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:54 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:34 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:22 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 23:26 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:16 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:13 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 21:41 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:51 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:32 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:43 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:09 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:43 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:31 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:15 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:21 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:40 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:53 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:17 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:55 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:27 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:09 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 01:56 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:00 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:27 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:41 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:37 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:19 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:26 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:37 +1100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:57 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:30 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:46 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:40 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:46 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 00:12 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:31 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 16:53 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:18 +0000
                Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 00:10 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:28 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:24 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:24 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 11:08 -0800
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 23:18 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 03:55 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-05 18:45 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 04:24 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:55 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:48 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:33 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:52 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:44 +1100
                Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:40 +1100
                Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:38 -0500
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:12 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:35 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:26 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:20 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:28 +0000
                Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:06 -0800
                Re: Shareholder primacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-04 14:36 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-01 12:25 -0600
                Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:35 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 19:19 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:29 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:42 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:13 +0000
                Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-03 14:44 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:39 +0000
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:51 -0500
                Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:41 +0100
              Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-29 13:29 +0100
                Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:12 -0500
          Re: The "Standards" Game Sam E <no.email@here.invalid> - 2025-11-28 17:29 +0000
            Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:37 +0000

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