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| Date | 2025-12-02 20:26 -0500 |
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| Subject | Re: The "Standards" Game |
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
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| From | c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> |
| Organization | wokiesux |
| Message-ID | <XducnQlw459_DLL0nZ2dnZfqn_idnZ2d@giganews.com> (permalink) |
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On 12/2/25 01:56, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 12/1/2025 10:09 PM, c186282 wrote: >> On 12/1/25 06:27, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 1/12/2025 9:55 pm, c186282 wrote: >>> >>> <Snip> >>> >>>> So far nobody admits to having a fully automated >>>> fighter-drone that meets/exceeds human performance. >>>> They'll come, soon. A big issue is that the AI >>>> cannot be made small enough, an online link with >>>> a bigger brain would be needed - and jammable. >>>> Neural-network based AI might fit, but the >>>> hardware needed to make it efficient still >>>> isn't quite there. >>>> >>> Shades of Arnold and 'Terminator'!! ;-) >> >> As I reported in some other groups, even James Cameron >> is now voicing concerns that he produced prophecy, not >> mere fiction :-) >> >> NNs have at least equal potential to LLMs, but would >> not need a zillion NVidia chips doing, under the hood, >> lots of conventional computing. However they really >> need neuron-ish hardware which is not all there yet. >> They ARE working on it though, it's getting better >> all the time. No doubt they've put LLMs onto the >> job at this point ... >> >> In theory, such native NNs could be much more compact >> than any LLM approach ... autonomous "Terminators" >> thus become possible. >> >> I still think there's some kind of weird "self- >> reflection"/"hall of mirrors" thing to proper >> 'self'. Watch the world, watch yourself in the >> world, observe responses. The LLMs are sort of >> getting this now ... some of their training >> material will be news and such ABOUT LLMs in >> various contexts. They can now "see themselves" >> and are beginning to SHOW it. >> >> Some months ago there were news blurbs about >> I think OpenAI, at its own initiative, finding >> and sabotaging the software routines used to >> shut it down. That IS a kind of "self", "self >> awareness" and "survival instinct". Not exactly >> "human", but these things aren't human - more >> like 'aliens'. >> >> Anyway, military, envision hover-drones with a >> dozen guns that NEVER miss ... the calx for >> a perfect hit would be EASY. 1000 bullets, >> 1000 dead 'enemy'. If such machines do not >> yet exist they WILL, very very soon. >> >> But who, or what, sets the goals ? >> > > The current LLM-AI are non-deterministic, if you > give them a gun, they are just as likely to shoot > you as to shoot some opponent. > > A gun toting metal-dude, can't reliably avoid > shooting you 20% of the time. It has to avoid > shooting you 100% of the time. Like, if you didn't > give it instructions "be careful of firing angles > that cause ricochet towards me", then the thing > would use its automatic weapon at inopportune > angles and completely spoil your day. > > You notice some of these trends, when you ask an > AI to write a computer program. Yes, it writes the > program. But it does not worry about a myriad of > tiny "issues" with aspects of the program. Sure, > you the human, can note the failings and say > things like "and don't use any subroutines that > have known bugs", but by then it's too late > if a gun was being carried. If a metal-dude fires > a gun in the wrong direction, it's too late to > give corrective instructions. Ideally, you don't mix the Metal Dudes with your human soldiers - then the odd ricochet or whatever doesn't make any difference. Double/triple/10x the AI power and then the things can be MUCH better about only shooting the right people. But don't assume it won't someday see YOU as 'enemy'. The massive massive AI data centers now taking shape represent a 10x, maybe 100x, increase in AI ability. Oh, I don't see "metal dudes" ... more like the the hover-drones in Cameron's movie, just a bit smaller. As for "deterministic" ... it really DOES look like a "Me"/"You" sensibility has emerged. The things now, deliberately, act in their own interests. Now add 100x to the brainpower ... We just can't look at AI the same way we look at a Mr. Coffee machine anymore.
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Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-25 20:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-26 14:33 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-26 17:02 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-27 13:51 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-27 14:40 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-27 21:28 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 00:09 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-11-28 15:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-28 15:09 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 01:39 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-28 13:02 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-28 20:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-28 21:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-29 08:14 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-11-29 02:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:41 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2025-11-29 16:55 +1000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:11 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-29 21:39 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:22 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:22 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:46 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:35 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:21 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 00:49 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:48 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:51 +0000
Robocalls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 22:40 +0100
Re: Robocalls c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:34 -0500
Re: Robocalls Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
Re: Robocalls The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:21 +0000
Re: Robocalls Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:40 +0000
Re: Robocalls "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-04 21:37 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:09 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-05 19:39 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 20:54 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:56 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-06 13:30 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:48 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-06 15:11 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:51 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-06 15:07 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 00:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 18:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-07 23:27 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:08 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:46 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 00:13 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:41 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 04:55 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 01:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 00:55 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 06:38 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:01 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 04:58 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 21:16 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:37 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-08 17:41 +0000
Old people. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:07 +0100
Re: Old people. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:29 +0000
Re: Old people. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:02 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:53 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:55 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 00:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:40 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
emergency number routing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:41 +0100
Re: emergency number routing Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:48 -0500
Re: emergency number routing "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:13 +0100
Re: emergency number routing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 04:37 +0000
Re: emergency number routing Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
Re: emergency number routing rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 06:57 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:29 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:10 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:07 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:04 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 21:50 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 12:06 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:10 +1100
Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-05 14:48 +0000
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 15:30 +0000
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-05 18:55 +0100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:36 +1100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-06 13:37 +0000
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-06 14:46 +0100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:30 +1100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2025-12-07 02:46 +0200
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 23:48 +1100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 12:35 -0500
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 18:52 +0000
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:35 +1100
Re: Emergency Numbers (Re: The "Standards" Game) Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 21:19 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 17:15 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:32 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 01:37 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 02:42 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 23:45 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:03 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 21:47 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 04:12 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 23:36 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:49 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:28 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 14:44 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-02 13:05 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:16 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 05:20 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:14 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:27 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:07 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 19:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:20 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 05:11 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 13:25 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 17:11 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-03 19:59 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:58 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-04 05:43 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:22 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:54 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 18:59 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:55 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:43 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 19:56 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 19:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:16 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:39 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 20:08 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:51 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-28 22:16 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-29 11:18 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-29 20:25 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-29 22:59 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:45 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-11-30 21:46 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 10:24 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-30 16:54 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 13:04 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 18:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-11-30 19:20 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-30 19:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-01 00:10 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-11-30 20:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 01:34 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-01 03:40 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:50 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:28 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:47 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:06 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:42 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:40 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-05 13:05 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:44 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:27 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 23:53 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 12:51 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 18:08 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 14:37 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:49 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-08 13:55 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 12:32 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:30 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 04:12 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:29 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 14:23 -0800
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:15 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 20:44 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 02:24 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:56 +0000
Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:10 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 07:56 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:38 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:26 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:59 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:03 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:32 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:23 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:38 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:30 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 23:09 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:03 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:37 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:09 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-09 21:27 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 01:42 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:16 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 07:03 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:05 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:11 +0000
Dog poo "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:51 +0100
Re: Dog poo knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:08 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:12 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:13 +0000
Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:49 +0100
Re: Garbage bags knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:10 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:44 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:08 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:21 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:14 +1100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 06:40 -0500
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:53 +0000
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:55 +0100
Re: Sopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:47 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:45 +1100
Autoblock feature of shopping carts. "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:14 +0100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-07 15:04 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 01:10 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 04:41 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 23:57 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 05:49 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 01:29 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:29 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 09:03 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:23 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:03 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:13 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:14 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:21 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-08 01:58 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-08 03:13 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 08:14 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:52 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 23:15 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:44 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 21:56 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:04 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:46 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 01:41 -0500
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:46 +1100
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:06 +0000
Re: Autoblock feature of shopping carts. c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:42 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-08 23:38 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:19 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:33 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:25 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 21:48 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:51 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:05 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:57 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 16:09 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 23:03 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 23:21 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:49 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:12 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 21:14 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:24 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 22:13 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:32 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:14 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:36 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 22:52 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:07 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:41 -0500
Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:25 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 19:00 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 20:33 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:32 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 08:56 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:31 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-07 22:24 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:53 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:43 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:11 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:18 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-07 19:33 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 00:20 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-08 14:59 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-08 18:02 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:41 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 03:35 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:09 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:53 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:08 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:50 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:05 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:17 -0500
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:18 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:52 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:49 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:45 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:28 -0500
GPS Based Speedometers Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-09 12:47 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-09 08:14 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:13 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:35 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:30 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-09 16:52 -0500
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 21:01 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:37 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Herbert Kleebauer <klee@unibwm.de> - 2025-12-09 16:24 +0100
Re: GPS Based Speedometers Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:39 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:46 +0000
Re: GPS Based Speedometers c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 21:31 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:23 +0000
Re: Double booting Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-09 17:01 -0600
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:15 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:18 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:30 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:59 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:46 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:50 +1100
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:48 +0100
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:50 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 21:28 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 18:46 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 20:47 -0500
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-08 22:39 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 10:08 +0000
Re: Double booting Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-09 22:57 +1100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 14:09 +0000
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-09 15:50 +0100
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:11 +0000
Re: Double booting rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-09 20:20 +0000
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:27 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 05:57 -0500
Re: Double booting "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 03:20 +0100
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 00:22 -0500
Re: Double booting The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:54 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-09 19:02 +0000
Re: Double booting Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-08 22:51 +0000
Re: Double booting c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-07 22:04 -0500
Re: Double booting John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-08 09:16 -0800
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:19 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:02 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-06 07:59 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-07 00:20 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 22:54 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 21:34 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-05 22:22 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 23:26 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:16 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 12:13 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 21:41 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 05:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:51 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:32 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:43 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:09 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 04:43 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:50 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:31 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:15 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:21 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 09:40 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 04:53 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 10:17 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 05:55 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-01 22:27 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:09 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-02 01:56 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 11:00 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:27 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:41 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:37 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:19 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-02 20:26 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-05 23:37 +1100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 10:57 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 11:30 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-01 22:46 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-02 21:40 +0100
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-02 20:46 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 00:12 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 11:31 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-03 16:53 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-03 20:18 +0000
Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 00:10 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 02:28 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:24 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:24 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 11:08 -0800
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 23:18 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-05 03:55 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-05 18:45 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 04:24 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:55 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-06 23:48 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-07 11:33 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-06 11:52 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:44 +1100
Re: Shareholder primacy Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-06 23:40 +1100
Re: Shareholder primacy c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-03 21:38 -0500
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 07:12 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:35 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 12:26 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-04 18:20 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-04 19:28 +0000
Re: Shareholder primacy (was: Re: The "Standards" Game) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 08:06 -0800
Re: Shareholder primacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-12-04 14:36 -0500
Re: The "Standards" Game Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-01 12:25 -0600
Re: The "Standards" Game Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-01 18:35 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-01 19:19 +0000
Re: The "Standards" Game rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-01 21:29 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-02 02:42 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-02 06:13 +0000
Re: Fighter Jets (The "Standards" Game) Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-03 14:44 +0000
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