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Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python?

From Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject Re: What other languages use the same data model as Python?
Date 2011-05-04 22:10 -0700
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 14:33:34 -0500, harrismh777
<harrismh777@charter.net> declaimed the following in
gmane.comp.python.general:


> We do not consider passing a pointer as *by value* because its an 
> address; by definition, that is pass-by-reference. We are not passing 

	To most of the world, pass-by-reference means the COMPILER, not the
PROGRAMMER is obtaining and passing the address, and the compiler also
always dereferences the passed "value"... The programmer has no control
over whether to operate on the address or the data referenced by the
address.
-- 
	Wulfraed                 Dennis Lee Bieber         AF6VN
        wlfraed@ix.netcom.com    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/

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