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Re: ? ? ?

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics, sci.math
Subject Re: ? ? ?
Date 2024-02-27 07:48 +0100
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Am 26.02.2024 um 21:57 schrieb Piotr Babchenko Bakulev:
> Thomas Heger wrote:
>
>> For equal time throughout the entire universe we would need a 'master
>> clock', which would synchronize all clocks in existence. But no such
>> thing does (apperently) exist and that's why time is local and
>> clocks depend on the local environment and count something there.
>
> actually it does, it's called Entropy. The time difference in relativity
> you get only when you observe non_locally. Very funny indeed. As for
> instance
>

Sure, the increase of entropy over time is a known fact.

But that does not say very much about time itself, because time is 
required for the increase of entropy in the first place.

And you cannot define things in a circular fashion.

Here you need time first and then can say something about entropy, but 
cannot use entropy to define time, anymore.

I would say, that time is local and a function of the local environment, 
which dictates, what local observers could see and take as time.

So: the local environment is a place in the universe, where local 
observers are stable entities and see the local universe, which they can 
measure with local means.

But if you would go somewhere else (like to Alpha Centaury), you would 
see a different universe, because the local environment there uses a 
different time.


TH


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