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Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
> W dniu 17.03.2024 o 07:55, Thomas Heger pisze:
> > Am 14.03.2024 um 09:42 schrieb Maciej Wozniak:
> >> W dniu 14.03.2024 o 08:24, Thomas Heger pisze:
> >>
> >>>>>> I don't give a damn to it. So, what kind of objects
> >>>>>> does use time? Does a rock do? What for?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 'timelike stable' is a requirement, which all material objects have to
> >>>>> fullfil.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Since 'timelike stable' requires time (actually a certain 'axis of
> >>>>> time')
> >>>>
> >>>> So, a rock is using time to be "timelike stable".
> >>>> How does it use it?
> >>>> And what is this "time" of yours? Are UTC, TAI, a zone
> >>>> time - times, or are they something else?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> I regard matter (e.g. particles) as 'timelike stable patterns' (of/in
> >>> spacetime).
> >>>
> >>> Rock is more a crystal than a particle, what is an ensamble of atoms.
> >>>
> >>> A particle is modelled as 'timelike stable' because this would alllow a
> >>
> >>
> >> Modelled by a rock, or modelled by us?
> >> Who or what is using "time" concept  here?
> > ??
> >
> > Natur is not a modell, but the thing, which we like to modell.
> 
> So, who, or what, can use time to model?
> 
> >> So, are UTC, TAI, zone times - times? Or
> >> are they something else?
> >
> > Time zones are something else.
> 
> Time zones surely are. How about zone times?
> Are they times or are they something else?


Time zones are just...shadows.

The numbers of 't' are just values earthlings put on a shadow.

Is it the Sun's fault earthlings put 'numbers' on shadows?


The Sun sez, "Hey, look a dat, they are now putting numbers on my shadows!"

The Sun sez, "It's just a shadow!!!!"

The Moon sez, "Hey Sun, look at me.. I'm a quarter!!"


The Sun sez, "IT'S JUST A FUCKING SHADOW!!!!"


The Moon ask the Sun, "What time do you have?"



"Half past a cows ass, a quarter to my balls!"
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
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