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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.mac.system |
| Subject | Re: Godo news for the Mac ! |
| Date | 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000 |
| Organization | People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates |
| Message-ID | <en6qttF2dgmU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 2017-05-06, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: > On 2017-05-05 16:42, Jolly Roger wrote: >> On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote: >> >>> But it's really nickle and dime. The Mac will be cheap to make - >>> maybe even cheaper to buy - but they're pushing other costs and >>> inconveniences onto the user while keeping the RDF humming. >> >> The only RDF here is the one you are trying to inject into the >> conversation. Computers have always needed adapters for this and >> that, particularly when industry shifted from one standard connector >> to another. And that applies more to portables than desktops since >> portables typically have fewer built-in ports due to miniaturization. >> We happen to be in the middle of a transition from legacy USB >> connections to USB-C at the moment, and (as usual) Apple is moving to >> the new standard faster than others - a move that makes sense >> considering more and more peripherals are moving to USB-C over time >> (eventually *most* will be, and considering Macs tend to have longer >> average life spans than Wintel PC competitors. The cry babies like to >> pretend Apple is doing this just to piss them off, but that's just >> not the case. > > You're just justifying. Naturally. I do think Apple's decision to go with all USB-C ports *is* justified. > As I mentioned earlier, while WiFi was available, the Ethernet > connector lingered on in most laptops for many, many years. As I mentioned earlier, when Apple moved from serial and parallel to all USB, there were a great many devices on the market that were *not* USB. This is a very similar situation. > Apple have sliced the original USB style port wholesale and forced > people to more dongles they'd rather not purchase, keep and use and > lose at the worst time. > > No transition period, so to speak. Nothing new. Soon all USB devices will be USB-C and this minor inconvenience won't even exist. >>> A lot of very portable computers have various common interfaces. We >>> don't lament the loss of Ethernet because of the widespread >>> availability of WiFi. The later preceded the removal of Ethernet >>> connectors. >>> >>> Now, the cart is before the horse. >> >> No more so than with parallel, serial, SCSI, floppy drives, DVD >> drives, and so on, no. Those of us who have been through all of these >> transitions have heard this line before. Sorry. > > The current situation is not a transition. It is a wholesale change > w/o a transition period. It's as much of a transition as the original move to all USB ports was in the original iMac was at a time of transition where many devices on the market did not have USB ports. It didn't take very long at all for device makers who wanted to sell to Mac users to transition to USB. >>> But SD readers take up more room in the briefcase and as an oddball >>> item, never really convenient to have in there. >> >> Nonsense; even the big ones are very small and fit neatly in a >> briefcase. I carry this one in my backpack when traveling, and you >> can barely notice it's there at all: > > I've made my opinion on travel and dongles clear. Travel (a great > thing for laptops) needs simplicity and reduction in what one carries. > Needing 1 or 2 more dongles is opposite that. Yes, and our opinions differ; needing one or two adapters isn't an issue for many folks. We can end this discussion now if you want. >>> There is plenty of room on the MBA for an SD slot. >> >> Not in the inside, there isn't, nope. Space is definitely in high >> demand, and I'll take more battery over a card slot any day. > > MBP 15": oodles of unused volume and board top. Nope, there's no wasted space in these things. In hardware engineering, there are many things to take into account. And repeating your ill-informed opinion just won't convince me, sorry. Apple's engineers know way more about this than some random dude on the net. NO SALE. >>> He represents what Apple purport to cater to: Creatives. >> >> Nope. He doesn't represent all creative people. He definitely doesn't >> represent *this* creative person, and many others. The world just >> does not revolve around photographers who complain about dongles. ; ) > > Paint it as you like. The wholesale removal of the ports for the > devices I actually have is a PITA. A minor but temporary pain, yep. Soon most USB devices will be USB-C and adapters won't be needed. >>> Much of their marketing is towards creative people. But their >>> design teams don't seem to grasp that in its entirety. >> >> There are always trade offs to be made. Apple hits the sweet spots >> more often than not, and sales numbers show this to be true, overall. > > Not of late. Dismal, actually. LOL... Apple's sales are anything *but* "dismal", which proves they are definitely hitting the sweet spot for their target market, like it or not. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 03:34 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:46 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-04 01:24 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-05-03 12:06 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 12:16 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:26 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 13:56 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 18:05 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:05 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:23 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:45 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:03 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:20 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:22 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:49 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:38 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:46 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 23:28 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:05 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 13:33 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:52 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:32 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:49 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:31 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-07 19:54 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:22 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 12:54 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:42 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 22:54 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:39 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:53 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 19:59 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:30 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:24 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:26 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:19 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:21 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:27 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:28 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:33 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:50 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 21:05 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-05 16:45 +0100
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:50 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 22:56 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:11 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 23:16 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:22 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:10 +0000
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 18:51 -0400
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:27 -0400
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 14:02 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:37 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:25 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:07 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 14:36 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:50 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 15:45 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:02 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:22 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:56 -0400
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:41 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:24 +0000
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:55 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-04 23:59 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 00:17 -0400
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Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:29 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:12 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 19:59 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 00:19 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 17:37 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0600
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:16 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:17 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:54 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:12 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:40 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 02:58 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:51 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:51 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:09 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:57 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 02:15 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:00 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:09 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:34 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:15 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 11:02 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:01 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:27 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:12 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 13:53 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:42 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:45 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:22 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 19:25 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 02:29 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:24 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 12:42 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:49 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 13:30 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 13:50 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-06 00:11 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:59 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:58 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:49 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 13:04 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-07 11:31 -0700
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-05-07 13:22 -0600
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +1200
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:31 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:09 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:42 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 20:05 -0400
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:59 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:15 +0000
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:49 -0500
Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 01:27 -0400
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