Re: Godo news for the Mac !

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system
Subject	Re: Godo news for the Mac !
Date	2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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On 2017-05-07, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
> On 6 May 2017 06:12:25 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2017-05-06, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> But is "progress" offering a thinner and thinner client that
>>> requires more and more Apple cloud services just to operate?
>>
>> That's a lie. Anyone who knows anything at all about Apple knows
>> iCloud is *completely* optional.
>
> LOL!  A completely optional service that Apple forces you to
> explicitly turn down

"Oh, my gawd!! I'm 'forced' to click a button during initial setup! How
unfair and oppressive, and completely non-optional of Apple!!!" : D

> because the OS is designed to be hooked into iCloud

"Oh, the horrors!! How dare a company create an OS that interoperates
with servers on the intarwebs!!! What fascism is this!!!!" : D

>>> Is "progress" offering progressively less useful products for
>>> anything but dilatory use?
>>
>> Like what, precisely? I smell bullshit.
>
> LOL!  You're just smelling your own upper lip, JR.  

Nope, I know bullshit when I smell it, and I'm definitely downwind from
you.

> Lessee- removal of Ethernet ports, video ports, DVD/CD drive, FireWire
> ports, SD slot.  And that's just looking at the Macs I have sitting in
> front of me.

You seem to have forgotten: ADB ports, SCSI ports, serial ports,
parallel ports, floppy drives, PDS slots, NuBus slots, oh my! Apple's
been taking toys away forever! Why on Earth are you still a customer?!

>>> And oddly enough that "progress" mainly seems to cut Apple's costs
>>> (leaving out drives, useful ports, etc.) while obliging the customer
>>> to buy yet more additional- and expensive- products in order to
>>> actually be creative with one's Mac.  Funny how that works.
>>
>> Again, bullshit. Funny how theses relatively minor things prevent
>> *you* from getting shit done, while the rest of us have no such
>> "obstacles".
>
> So you do not do creative work with your Mac like video editing, music
> creation, etc.?

Yep, of course I do. Yet you don't see me here trolling and bitching
about silly things like adapters getting in the way of getting shit
done. It's almost as if you're here just to troll; imagine that.

> Once upon a time that was one of the markets in which the Mac
> outstripped the PC; now that work is done on Windows machines while
> Macs are ued for Facebook at the coffee shop.

Nonsense. My entire family is in the professional music business, and
they all use Macs. I'm not going to bother dropping names, because you'd
surely just come up with some lame, trollish excuse to belittle them or
me for not bing representative of good musicians or some other such
garbage, despite their success.

> Just because *you* aren't inconvenienced by the Macs retreat from
> professional work doesn't mean that other people aren't.

I'm a professional nonetheless. What Apple understands far better than
the vocal minority whiners here is there are many different types of
professionals with many different computing needs. You don't necessarily
represent all professionals; so you don't get to define whether all of
us or even the majority of us are inconvenienced by technology changing.
Those of us who have been in technology for 30+ years know things change
quickly, and you either adapt or fall behind - that choice is squarely
yours.

> People end up building Hackintoshes to get around the lacking
> capacities of Mac hardware.

And they suffer for it with instability, incompatibilities, and a
constant need to avoid updates (including critical *security* updates)
until someone in the community patches them to work correctly on their
unsupported hardware configuration. Personally I've got much more
important and lucrative things to do than spend my time futzing around
with all of that just so I can have an SD card slot or some other silly
thing.

>>> If you consider progress to be "we're getting rid of all your useful
>>> ports and giving you one that almost nothig plugs into natively,"
>>> well then we are just going to be on different pages.
>>
>> Almost all USB devices are moving to USB-C. You're akin to the same
>> people who complained when Apple dropped floppy drives, serial ports,
>> SCSI ports, and so on. Stay stuck in the past if you feel you must -
>> the rest of the world *will* move on, Apple leading the way as usual.
>
> There you go, defeating your own arguments again.  LOL!  

Nope. Before long all USB devices that matter will be USB-C. And then,
like *magic*, the complainers will love that Macs have USB-C ports.

> Also, since USB-C is an "industry standard" already, according to
> other comments, Apple is not in fact leading the way.

They said the same thing about USB when Apple went all-USB on the iMac.
You want us to forget that. SORRY, NO SALE. : ) 

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0500
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:29 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:07 -0500
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 13:12 +1200
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 21:17 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:29 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:12 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 19:59 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 00:19 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:16 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:17 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:54 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:12 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:40 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 02:58 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:51 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:51 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:09 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:57 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 02:15 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:00 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:34 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:15 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 11:02 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:01 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:27 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 13:53 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 19:25 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 02:29 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:24 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 12:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:49 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 13:30 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 13:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-06 00:11 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:59 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:58 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:49 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 13:04 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-07 11:31 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-05-07 13:22 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +1200
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:31 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:42 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 20:05 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:59 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:15 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:49 -0500
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 01:27 -0400

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