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Re: Godo news for the Mac !

Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
From Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net>
Subject Re: Godo news for the Mac !
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Date 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500

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On 6 May 2017 06:12:25 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
> On 2017-05-06, Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> wrote:
>>
>> But is "progress" offering a thinner and thinner client that requires 
>> more and more Apple cloud services just to operate?
>
> That's a lie. Anyone who knows anything at all about Apple knows 
> iCloud is *completely* optional.

LOL!  A completely optional service that Apple forces you to explicitly 
turn down, because the OS is designed to be hooked into iCloud.  When 
you buy your new Mac and every time you update the ODS you have to go 
through the same rigamarole.  iCloud is an opt-out part of the OS, not 
and opt-in one.

>> Is "progress" offering progressively less useful products for 
>> anything but dilatory use?
>
> Like what, precisely? I smell bullshit.

LOL!  You're just smelling your own upper lip, JR.  

Lessee- removal of Ethernet ports, video ports, DVD/CD drive, FireWire 
ports, SD slot.  And that's just looking at the Macs I have sitting in 
front of me.

>> And oddly enough that "progress" mainly seems to cut Apple's costs 
>> (leaving out drives, useful ports, etc.) while obliging the customer 
>> to buy yet more additional- and expensive- products in order to 
>> actually be creative with one's Mac.  Funny how that works.
>
> Again, bullshit. Funny how theses relatively minor things prevent 
> *you* from getting shit done, while the rest of us have no such 
> "obstacles".

So you do not do creative work with your Mac like video editing, music 
creation, etc.?  Once upon a time that was one of the markets in which 
the Mac outstripped the PC; now that work is done on Windows machines 
while Macs are ued for Facebook at the coffee shop.

Just because *you* aren't inconvenienced by the Macs retreat from 
professional work doesn't mean that other people aren't.  People end up 
building Hackintoshes to get around the lacking capacities of Mac 
hardware.

>> If you consider progress to be "we're getting rid of all your useful 
>> ports and giving you one that almost nothig plugs into natively," 
>> well then we are just going to be on different pages.
>
> Almost all USB devices are moving to USB-C. You're akin to the same 
> people who complained when Apple dropped floppy drives, serial ports, 
> SCSI ports, and so on. Stay stuck in the past if you feel you must - 
> the rest of the world *will* move on, Apple leading the way as usual.

There you go, defeating your own arguments again.  LOL!  

Also, since USB-C is an "industry standard" already, according to other 
comments, Apple is not in fact leading the way.  It's playing catch up.  
Where Apple tried to "lead the way" like FireWire and Thunderbolt hasn't 
panned out so well...  Apple's chronically been late to the party on 
anything "not invented here."  Not that you'll be willing to recognize 
it.

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Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 03:34 +0000
  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:46 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-04 01:24 +1200
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-05-03 12:06 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 12:16 -0400
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:26 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 13:56 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 18:05 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:23 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:03 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:20 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:49 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:38 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:46 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 23:28 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:52 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:32 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:49 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:31 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-07 19:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 12:54 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:42 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 22:54 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:39 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:53 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 19:59 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:30 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:24 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:26 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:19 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:21 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:27 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:28 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:33 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 21:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-05 16:45 +0100
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:50 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 22:56 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:11 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 23:16 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-06 08:55 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:10 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:11 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 18:51 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:46 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:27 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 15:15 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:23 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 14:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:37 +0000
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:25 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:07 -0700
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 14:36 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:50 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 15:45 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:02 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:22 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:56 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:41 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:24 +0000
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:44 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:41 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 23:17 -0400
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:53 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-04 00:04 -0500
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-04 18:47 +1200
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 02:55 -0400
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-04 23:59 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 00:17 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! android <here@there.was> - 2017-05-05 06:34 +0200
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 16:58 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! android <here@there.was> - 2017-05-05 09:00 +0200
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:04 -0400
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            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:11 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:09 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 09:03 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:28 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-06 04:39 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:38 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-08 15:55 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:23 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 01:56 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 16:29 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-08 20:17 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 22:14 +0000
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 22:37 +0000
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-09 15:32 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 06:30 +0000
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0500
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:29 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:07 -0500
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            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 21:17 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:29 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:12 +0000
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 00:19 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:16 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:17 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:54 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:12 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:40 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 02:58 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:51 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:51 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:09 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:57 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 02:15 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:00 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:34 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:15 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 11:02 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:01 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:27 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 13:53 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 19:25 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 02:29 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:24 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 12:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:49 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 13:30 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 13:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-06 00:11 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:59 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:58 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:49 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 13:04 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-07 11:31 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-05-07 13:22 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +1200
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:31 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:42 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 20:05 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:59 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:15 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:49 -0500
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 01:27 -0400

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