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Re: Godo news for the Mac !

Subject Re: Godo news for the Mac !
Newsgroups comp.sys.mac.system
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From Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca>
Date 2017-05-06 08:26 -0400
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On 2017-05-05 15:59, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>> On 2017-05-05 11:03, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2017-05-05, Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> SD cards are the removable storage for many cameras.  Having an SD
>>>> slot in a portable computer for *photographers*
>>>
>>> For the vast majority of people (who *aren't* professional
>>> photographers), the lack of such a slot is hardly important
>>> considering how cheap and small card readers are and considering how
>>> much space a car reader takes up on the side of a laptop. They'd
>>> naturally prefer that valuable space be used for more versatile
>>> ports, making this a complete non-issue for most people. Face it: You
>>> are in a vocal, but *very* small, minority.
>>
>> Could be - but as Apple are so into the creatives field you would
>> think they would support them in a positive fashion.  Nobody likes
>> dongles.
>
> Meh. Dongles are *nothing* new.

Neither is syphilis.  I don't want it.

>
>> There's tons of unused edge space on the side of the MPB - so that
>> argument does not have wings.
>
> Only to someone who has a *superficial* view of only what is on the
> *outside* of the machine. One look at the internals shows that space is
> definitely in use.

In the MBP 15" there is oodles of room where parts can move inwards to 
make room for an SD slot.  I haven't found a good photo of the innards 
of the 13" to see what could be done but I doubt it's an issue at all.

>> Apple's "drive" here is not about what is the best i/o set.  It's
>> about thinness for thinness and lowered cost of manufacturing.
>
> Nope. It's also about maximizing space for other more important things.
> Try all you want, but you're not going to convince me that Apple's goals
> are all superficial. Again, the world is not black & white.

Above.  And yes, Apple's goals are minimalism.  Doesn't mean I like the 
cost to me of their goals.

>>>> Having to have a dongle is additional stuff to carry and possibly
>>>> lose just before it is most urgently needed.
>>>
>>> "THE DONGLES - THEY SUCK!! WE HATES THEM!"
>>
>> Very much agree and I'm glad you do too.
>
> I don't. I'm fine with them. I have *much* better things to do than
> complain that I have to carry a dingle in my backpack. That's why I used
> quotes; I'm quoting the cry babies. : )

Humour check.

>
>>> Meanwhile the rest of us realize laptops have *always* had a limited
>>> number of ports and plan accordingly. Many people realize the reality
>>> is dongles have been needed with laptops for many years due to the
>>> sheer number of different devices one might want to connect to a
>>> laptop.  Anyone working in a large corporate environment knows this
>>> well, and it doesn't apply only to Macs, either. I say suck it up and
>>> get some real work done, snowflakes!
>>
>> I've always had laptops (in the recent era) that had USB.  So many
>> peripherals of course have USB.
>
> Well you're in luck: All Macs have USB ports.

You know I mean the rectangular old style.  Not the TB 3 style.


>
>> Dongles suck and I don't have, need or use any.  (One at work as a
>> backup for Ethernet access is there if needed.  Not even sure what
>> drawer it's in).
>>
>> I don't have other dongles for my laptops.  Indeed the only dongle I
>> do have is on my iMac for the DVI to the side display.  That's
>> permanent so I don't care.
>
> Then you have nothing to bitch about.
>
>> For laptops, portability, dongles are crap and to be avoided.
>
> Meh.

Meh yourself.  Dongles are things you forget at home or in the hotel 
room.  PITA's to be avoided.

>
>> As in the YouTube video I posted further up.  For his needs, 3
>> different dongles.
>
> He's not representative of all of us. Most of us don't need to carry
> dongles *everywhere* we go (and I have to think he probably doesn't need
> them *everywhere* he goes anyway).

He does, actually.  He's an unusually mobile person who is always making 
video wherever he goes which is everywhere.  I hate to admit it but 
watching his videos can be habit forming.  He is irritating, often 
wrong, opinionated, etc.  But his video presentation skills are great.

Yes, that's not everyone.  But anyone who uses their laptop as a work 
tool that needs to import data, doesn't want to have to use dongles.  If 
you had a choice you would prefer not to.

It's like needing a crank to start a car.


>
>> When you travel a lot a single dongle is a dongle too many.
>
> Nonsense. Keep one or more dongles in your backpack, suitcase, whatever.
> They can easily go wherever you go. Alternatively, many choose to keep
> the dongle attached to the device at the destination. Either way, it's
> *not* a big deal at *all*.

The issue is not bringing them.  The issue is manipulating them and 
forgetting them.  At home.  In the hotel.  Airport.  On the train.  On 
the plane.  Just having to add one to the cable or switch from to the 
next is a PITA.  Then when you really need one ... oops.  It's back in LA.

Really unacceptable - and I loathe buying my next laptop.  The primary 
at work is now 3 years old; the backup is 2.  Both have the good 'ole 
rectangular USB ports and that's great.  Both are i5 which is ample for 
their tasks.

Probably sufficient for another 2 - 3 years.

May need to buy another as a workstation however.  Or another Mac Mini.

-- 
"If war is God's way of teaching Americans geography, then
recession is His way of teaching everyone a little economics."
   ..Raj Patel, The Value of Nothing.

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Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-02 23:26 -0400
  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 03:34 +0000
  Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:41 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-03 08:46 -0400
    Re: Godo news for the Mac ! dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2017-05-04 01:24 +1200
      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2017-05-03 12:06 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 12:16 -0400
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:26 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 13:56 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-03 18:05 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 11:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:07 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 14:23 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:03 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:20 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:49 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:38 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:46 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 23:28 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 13:33 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:52 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:32 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:49 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 17:19 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 14:31 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-07 19:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 11:07 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-08 12:54 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:42 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 22:54 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:39 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:53 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 19:59 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:30 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:24 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:26 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:19 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:21 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:27 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:28 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:33 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 15:36 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 21:05 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2017-05-05 16:45 +0100
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:50 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-05 22:56 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:11 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 23:16 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 19:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:45 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-06 08:55 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:10 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:11 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 16:28 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:48 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 18:51 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:46 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:27 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 15:15 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 00:23 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 00:35 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 14:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:44 -0400
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        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-03 17:25 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-03 11:07 -0700
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 14:36 -0400
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                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:56 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:41 -0400
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      Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-03 17:41 -0400
        Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-03 23:17 -0400
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          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 20:06 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:42 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:50 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:55 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 10:58 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 16:37 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 17:40 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-06 23:28 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-07 19:33 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-05-07 11:54 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:11 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:45 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-08 15:29 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:07 -0500
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-05 13:12 +1200
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-04 21:17 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:55 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 01:06 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:29 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:12 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 19:59 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 00:19 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-06 17:37 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:46 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 19:02 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! "Andre G. Isaak" <agisaak@gm.invalid> - 2017-05-07 14:57 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:16 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 17:17 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-07 21:54 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:12 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-08 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-09 09:40 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-09 02:58 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:51 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:51 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 20:09 +0000
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2017-05-08 19:57 +0000
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 02:15 +0000
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 10:00 -0400
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 10:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 11:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:34 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:15 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 11:02 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 15:01 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 15:27 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 13:53 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:45 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 22:22 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2017-05-05 19:25 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 02:29 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 11:54 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:24 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 12:42 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:49 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-05 13:30 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 13:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-06 00:11 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-06 18:59 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:58 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:49 +1200
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-06 10:12 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 13:04 -0500
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2017-05-07 11:31 -0700
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nmassello@yahoo.com (Neill Massello) - 2017-05-07 13:22 -0600
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2017-05-07 15:50 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2017-05-08 10:53 +1200
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 15:31 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-05 12:09 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-05 20:42 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Alan Browne <alan.browne@freelunchvideotron.ca> - 2017-05-06 08:34 -0400
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 20:44 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-06 20:05 -0400
            Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-05 23:59 -0500
              Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2017-05-06 06:15 +0000
                Re: Godo news for the Mac ! Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2017-05-07 12:49 -0500
          Re: Godo news for the Mac ! JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2017-05-05 01:27 -0400

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