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Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

From felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.electronics
Subject Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen
Date 2016-01-21 22:04 +1100
Message-ID <dgbsbaF8g80U2@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 21-January-2016 7:39 PM, F Murtz wrote:
> felix wrote:
>> On 21-January-2016 11:17 AM, F Murtz wrote:
>>> felix wrote:
>>>> On 19-January-2016 1:30 AM, keithr wrote:
>>>>> On 18/01/2016 4:59 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>> On 18-January-2016 4:52 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>> On 18/01/2016 9:10 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 18-January-2016 10:14 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 18/01/2016 4:42 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 10:58 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2016 7:14 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 8:47 PM, keithr wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2016 12:34 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:45 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/01/2016 9:14 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:08 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2016 9:39 PM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17-January-2016 12:01 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16/01/2016 10:41 AM, Je�us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 13:32:48 +1100, felix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <me@nothere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16-January-2016 1:15 PM, Je?us wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Jan 2016 11:42:28 +1100, felix
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <me@nothere.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16-January-2016 11:17 AM, Clocky wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 15/01/2016 6:32 AM, felix wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suppose you can see a difference when using two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brands of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDMI cables too can you, because it makes just as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well you are completely wrong there because 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences between HDMI cables. if you can't see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assume you do not have equipment of sufficient
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You really are a lost cause :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any HDMI cables that are *well made* out of 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> materials and are not faulty in some way and of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> length
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce the same result.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no, you are if you want to argue against what is well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> known
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audiophiles the world over, ie. that interconnect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affects
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio/video quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL. Go to stereo.net and start a thread there on the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Espouse your theories there. Please do :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NB: I see you edited out the rest of my reply (which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstated).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only reason you'd do that is because you're trolling,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point of being convinced is exactly what you've been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> three weeks or so. Your opinions on everything are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *too*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridiculous to be for real.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you must be as stupid as he is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're trolling
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oh really? care to point out the bit that was edited and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reinstated?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no answer I see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suggest it's you who's trolling. and you are at least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ignorant if you are unaware that AV interconnects have a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bearing on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You're ignorant of all the technical details of how a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am I? what have I said that's wrong about digital signals?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quote
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> please..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you are applying analog signal principles to digital
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> devices
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> connections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so according to you, if I connect my Yamaha amp with a $2 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HDMI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cable and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then with a $300 monster cable, I will see no difference. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you are aware that some HDMI cables can't handle 1080p for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose? but then.. I suppose not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < http://www.hdmi.org/consumer/finding_right_cable.aspx >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and here's more detail about HDMI cable standards and 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> specs..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure your HDMI cable can cause signal drops and errors but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> manifest in any way shape or form in the way you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your silly nonsense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the silly nonsense that HDMI can affect video and audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that silly nonsense? well you're wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So either you are trolling or your a complete dill.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm neither. but you're ignorant on this matter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You are the kind of wood duck that companies like Monster 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> love,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'd go broke without people like you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monster Cable Products, Inc is the world's leading
>>>>>>>>>>>> manufacturer of
>>>>>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>>>>>> end cables that connect audio/video components for home, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> car and
>>>>>>>>>>>> professional use. Monster's audio cables have high performance
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> characteristics that increase the clarity, dynamics and power
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> audio signals. The video cables give improved picture 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quality to
>>>>>>>>>>>> television and home theatre systems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (and I can confirm that is so)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monster Cable Products, Inc. was started in 1979 by Noel Lee,
>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> then a laser-fusion design engineer at Lawrence-Livermore
>>>>>>>>>>>> Laboratory, as
>>>>>>>>>>>> well as an audiophile and drummer/musician, found that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wires of
>>>>>>>>>>>> different constructions produced varying degrees of audio
>>>>>>>>>>>> performance
>>>>>>>>>>>> when hooked up to loudspeakers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (exactly what I have found and said here and got rubbished
>>>>>>>>>>>> for it)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  From this discovery, he crafted a high performance cable. He
>>>>>>>>>>>> named it
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monster Cable, and founded an industry that has since 
>>>>>>>>>>>> exploded.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>> creation of Monster Cable started a new product category of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> high
>>>>>>>>>>>> performance audio cables that revolutionised the audio market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lee chose the name "Monster" for two reasons. It sounded 
>>>>>>>>>>>> strong
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> powerful, and the size of the cable was "monstrous" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> compared to
>>>>>>>>>>>> ordinary
>>>>>>>>>>>> loudspeaker cable. The name was a hit straightaway and now is
>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>> misused to mean any high performance cable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Monster offers more than 1000 products, and has become an
>>>>>>>>>>>> indispensable
>>>>>>>>>>>> accessory for music lovers, audiophiles, recording studios,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
>>>>>>>>>>>> enthusiasts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More than 2,000 different CDs have given Monster Cable credit
>>>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> jacket of their recordings and hundreds of feature film sound
>>>>>>>>>>>> tracks and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Foley sound effects have been recorded with Monster Cable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ehifi.com.au/brands/monster.aspx
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> but of course you know better, and it's all nonsense. idiot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You can believe whatever scam you like,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> because it isn't. I have just one question for you.. what
>>>>>>>>>> experience do
>>>>>>>>>> YOU PERSONALLY have with AV cables and decent AV equipment?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More then you obviously when you can't even grasp the basics of
>>>>>>>>> digital signals.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you're avoiding the question. what testing have YOU personally
>>>>>>>> done of
>>>>>>>> AV input/output cables? part of my working career was with a
>>>>>>>> manufacturer of hi end audio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which make your claims even more ludicrous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> still no answer about YOUR experience
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> why do you think at trade shows they DON'T use cheap cables if it
>>>>>>>> makes no difference?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Gross profit is why. Selling overpriced cables to numpties like
>>>>>>> you is
>>>>>>> big business.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and other 'numpties' like.. "music lovers, audiophiles, recording
>>>>>> studios, sound
>>>>>> professionals, musicians, custom installers and home theatre
>>>>>> enthusiasts" apparently
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> but read this and understand why what you think you see is
>>>>>>>>>>> impossible
>>>>>>>>>>> with HDMI.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> http://denon.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/192/~/differences-between-hdmi-versions-1.1,-1.2,-1.3a,-1.4-and-2.0%3F 
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You still don't get it. There are different cables supporting
>>>>>>>>> different data rates and features. What that means is that
>>>>>>>>> either the
>>>>>>>>> cable will work, or it won't. You're not going to see any
>>>>>>>>> difference
>>>>>>>>> in image quality between cables (with the possible exception of
>>>>>>>>> sparkling but that's not what you are describing).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> no. why do you think HDMI cables are rated according to spec?
>>>>>>>> care to
>>>>>>>> explain how a 1.2 cable can handle 10.2 Gbps 1080p or 4k 
>>>>>>>> resolution
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> 16bit colour depth when it can't?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What does that have to do with the image you see and the claims you
>>>>>>> make as to being able to see a difference?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if you don't even know the answer to that, there's no point in even
>>>>>> discussing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You haven't posted anything that supports your theory that there is
>>>>>>> any difference between cheap and expensive cables of the same
>>>>>>> specification in terms of what you see on the screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh, so now it's 'of the same specification' is it..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I suspect you have no practical knowledge of the matter and are 
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> talking theory. but no point in arguing endlessly. you will not
>>>>>>>> convince
>>>>>>>> me, or anyone else with any experience with interconnects, that
>>>>>>>> I/we do
>>>>>>>> not see and hear what we do see and hear, or don't, depending 
>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>> cable used.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's all in the befuddled mess you call your mind.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah, keep talkin. saying it's so doesn't make it so. and STILL you
>>>>>> don't say what real practical experience you have with cables which
>>>>>> makes you such an expert. but actually, don't keep talkin. I'm done
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> you..
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking as one who has had  formal education in electronics and has
>>>>> spent 50 odd years pushing all sorts of signals through all sorts of
>>>>> cables, I say that you are talking through your arse.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> so then genius, now explain to me please how a HDMI spec 1.1 cable can
>>>> perform the same as a HDMI spec 2 cable?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Did he say that? most respondents say that cable specs do have a
>>> bearing but not in the context of the argument.
>>
>> well since a spec 1.1 cable can't handle 16 bit colour and 1080p,
>> obviously you will see a better picture with the spec 2 cable.
>>
> But will not show in the way you described.

I have said I can see differences between HDMI leads, so what are you on 
about?

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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-30 01:20 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-30 07:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-30 08:31 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:31 +1100
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:10 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 15:14 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:56 +1100
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:08 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:24 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:13 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 22:29 -0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:56 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-17 01:39 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:47 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:42 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:55 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 20:53 +1100
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-14 16:53 +0000
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "SG1" <Lost@the.races.com> - 2016-01-15 08:57 +1000
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 10:18 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:53 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:14 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-14 23:30 +0000
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 17:28 +1100
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:46 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:00 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 22:01 +1100
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 00:43 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:21 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:27 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 00:33 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-15 22:52 +0000
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:32 +1100
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:27 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 09:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Jacko" <Jacko_ONE@bigpond.com> - 2016-01-17 09:47 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 11:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 20:21 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 10:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:54 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:49 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 16:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:18 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 11:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 14:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:06 +1100
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 04:01 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:20 +1100
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:34 +1100
              Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 01:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 02:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-16 19:31 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 21:27 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 21:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 09:09 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:40 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-19 16:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 12:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:03 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:12 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:13 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:46 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:25 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0800
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 19:05 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:04 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 17:00 +0800
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:39 +1100
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:52 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 21:57 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:30 +1100
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:50 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:22 +1100
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:25 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:16 +1100
      Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:23 +1100
        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 14:02 +1100
            Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:15 +1100
          Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 03:03 +1100

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