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| From | felix <me@nothere.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.electronics |
| Subject | Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen |
| Date | 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dgafflFslpbU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (9 earlier) <dg4tddFi962U1@mid.individual.net> <dg5eqkFmkmbU1@mid.individual.net> <dg761aF2fvcU1@mid.individual.net> <dg84jlFa9afU1@mid.individual.net> <dga7b5FqhcfU1@mid.individual.net> |
Cross-posted to 3 groups.
On 21-January-2016 7:00 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> On 20-January-2016 3:19 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 19-January-2016 6:40 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On 18-January-2016 8:18 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>>>>>> Je?us <j@invalid.lan> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17 Jan 2016 14:18:25 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> - Using 'DVD shrink' (cite URL) is *not* making a (direct) copy.
>>>>>>>> Well... it /is/ possible if the original source was from a single
>>>>>>>> layer disc. Not very common, of course.
>>>>>>> I beg to differ. If he's making a direct, i.e. one-to-one copy, there
>>>>>>> is no shrinking [1] involved, because a shrunk copy would by definition
>>>>>>> be different from the original.
>>>>>> DVD Shrink is used to strip copy protection
>>>>> So finally - after yet another teeth pulling operation - a *bit* of
>>>>> detail. You should have said this *upfront*, because just saying that
>>>>> you used DVD shrink, implies that you shrunk the copies and might have
>>>>> made a - highly relevant - error there.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> But more importantly, note that he never said *what* he copied
>>>>>> DVD movies
>>>>> 'movieS'? Did you copy more than one movie to one DVD?
>>>> no, one movie per dvd
>>> So you should say "DVD movie", singular. What you do at *other* times
>>> is irrelevant to your media test and should be left out.
> Non response duly noted.
>
>>>>>>> and not *how* he copied it.
>>>>>> I did - Asus burner in a PC using DVD Shrink and Nero
>>>>> Yes, you said only *that*, and I asked for the procedures, settings,
>>>>> options, etc., and again you failed to give the required info.
>>>> it varies according to what I am recording. I am discussing the
>>>> recording of DVD's with the ONLY variant being the media, and not one
>>>> particular recording
>>> You keep saying that (i.e. stamping your feet) - but as has been
>>> pointed out to you umpteen times - it is *IMPOSSIBLE* that the pictures
>>> for the two brands of media are different, if that is "the ONLY variant".
>>>
>>> It's a *digital* copy of a *digital* source. If the copies are
>>> identical - which you refuse to test - the pictures for the two brands
>>> are the same, period.
>> so how is that done?
> I've already asked for pointers. Apparently that escaped you as well.
>
>> and I've already told you we were not talking about
>> any DVDs specifically, so I would have to make some copies to compare.
> Sigh! You use the *existing* copies (one LG and one TDK) which *you*
> claim give different visual results. Making more copies would only
> confuse you - and hence the issue - even more.
>
>>> So *deliver* - i.e. compare the contents of the two media bit-for-bit
>>> and post the results - or STFU!
>> I'm replying to you stupid.
> Yes, you 'reply' - FSVSVO 'reply' - but's you don't *deliver*, you
> only add more and more nonsense.
>
>>>>>>> He only said that he burnt (burned?) a movie twice,
>>>>>>> once to TDK media, once to LG media. No details about the source, no
>>>>>>> details about the format(s) of the source,
>>>>>> DVD movies
>>>>> See above.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> not details about the
>>>>>>> procedures/settings of the copy process and no details about the
>>>>>>> format(s) of the targets.
>>>>>> what more info do you want? I'm making copies of DVD's
>>>>> Duh! I (read: we) want (read: require) the info *which I'm asking for*,
>>>>>
>>>>> Believe it or not, but software like DVD Shrink and Nero doesn't run
>>>>> itself! So we need to know exactly which operations you performed and
>>>>> which settings/options/etc., you used.
>>>>>
>>>>> *If* the visual results of both copies were the same, we would of
>>>>> course not need this information. But because *you* *claim* they're
>>>>> different and *you* clearly don't grasp the subject matter at hand, the
>>>>> information *is* required.
>>>> see previous
>>>>
>>>>>>> And then there's - as I mentioned - the different connections of the
>>>>>>> two DVD players.
>>>>>> the other DVD player is irrelevant. READ the thread! I'm not going to
>>>>>> repeat it all
>>>>> Well, if it's irrelevant, then why did you mention it?
>>>> like I've said, you were confusing to separate discussions
>>> No, I do *not* confuse the two seperate discussions (the - already
>>> long closed - topic mentioned in the Subject: line ("DVD picture doesn't
>>> fill the screen"), and this one - the supposedly different picture from
>>> two different brands of media).
>>>
>>> But *you* brought up the (connection of the) Samsung player, so *you*
>>> are confused, because you bring up a point which *you* know/say is
>>> irrelevant.
>> no, it's you who are (still) confused or you wouldn't even mention the
>> Samsung DVD player in relation to the discussion about media. there are
>> three discussions in the thread
>> 1. DVD picture not filling the screen
>> 2. a disc that would not play
>> 3. variations between DVD media
>>
>> it was only in relation to (2) that the Samsung was mentioned or was
>> relevant. I kept telling you to read the thread to clarify your
>> thoughts. if you had done so you would know that the Samsung is
>> irrelevant to this discussion.
> Yes, that's what you keep saying *after* the fact, but *you* *did*
> mention (the connection of) the Samsung in discussion '3.':
>
> <quote>
>
> From: felix <me@nothere.invalid>
> Newsgroups: aus.computers,aus.tv,aus.electronics
> Subject: Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen
> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2016 10:25:28 +1100
> Message-ID: <dg01rqFaur9U1@mid.individual.net>
>
> [deleted by FS]
>
> so here we go again. honestly, you ppl should be in the investigation
> business having such suspicious natures. firstly you are confusing
> several matters that were/are being discussed. let me enlighten you. the
> initial discussion was about a disc that produced a picture that didn't
> fill the screen. that was resolved entirely, thanks to trevor actually,
> but led to a discussion about media, and then my claim that subtle
> visual differences are produced depending on the DVD media used.
> regarding the recording/playing procedure, I use an Asus burner and DVD
> shrink and Nero to encode and burn the discs in a desktop PC, which are
> then played in a late model Panasonic DVD player, connected via Monster
> HDMI cable to a Yamaha AV Receiver, which upscales the signal to 1080p
> and connects to a 58 inch Samsung Plasma TV via another Monster HDMI
> cable. the equipment and procedure used is always the same. regarding
> the Samsung DVD player, that is not used but is still connected, again
> ======================================================================
> via monster HDMI cable, but directly to the TV. the audio from that is
> ======================================================================
> fed from the TV 'optical out' to one of the Yamaha amps 'optical in'
> ====================================================================
> sockets, possibly again via Monster cable, I don't recall. so I hope
> ==========================================================
> this has now given you the information that you suggest is sadly
> lacking, and you can now take your suspicions and speculations and shove
> 'em!
>
> [deleted by FS]
>
> </quote>
>
> So now you can eat some humble pie and the egg from your face.
>
>>>>>>> All-in-all a myriad of possibilities why the visible results could
>>>>>>> indeed be different, NOT because of the brands of the media, but because
>>>>>>> of other factors which he didn't report, most likely because he doesn't
>>>>>>> realize their importance/relevance, but possibly because he's trolling.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] I have to say that I find the name 'DVD shrink' rather fitting in
>>>>>>> this (non-)discussion.
>>>>> Bottom line: You're of course free to let this rest and shut up. But
>>>>> if you keep stamping your feet, continue to utter nonsense
>>>> IYNSWO
>>>>
>>>>> and continue to flame/insult people
>>>> that's just a lie. of course no one has abused or insulted me have they..
>>> No, that's a *fact*. Specifically, you flamed/insulted me after my
>>> *very first* response in this thread, and that response was *not*
>>> inflammatory at all!
>> how much patience do you think I have? your response came late in the
>> discussion after I had been called all sorts of things and constantly
>> accused of trolling, and you pop up with yet another suggestion of lack
>> of knowledge and trolling. you'll recall I started my response with
>> "here we go again.."
> I don't give a toss about your feeble (non-)excuses. I'm not
> responsible for what - you think - *other* people did. As I said, my
> response was not inflammatory at all. And that you think that I
> suggested that you were trolling, just shows - again - that you can't
> read for comprehension.
>
>>> If you think otherwise, *prove* it (with a cite).
>>>
>>>>> who clearly know much more than you do
>>>> again IYNSWO. NO ONE who has had ANY practical experience with cables
>>>> will try to tell you they cannot affect audio or video performance.
>>> *Nobody* - except you - is saying that. Everybody - except you - is
>>> sticking to the cable type which is relevant for *this* discussion,
>>> namely a HDMI cable, i.e. a cable for *digital* video/audio. As people
>>> have tried and tried again to ram into your brain, the (non) quality of
>>> an HDMI cable *cannot* affect the quality of the picture as you are
>>> mentioning (i.e. colour seperation and sharpness). A 'bad' quality cable
>>> can give video/audio *interruptions*, i.e. blocks, etc.) or even not
>>> work at all, but it *cannot* affect colour seperation and sharpness.
>>>
>>> Of course *if* we were talking about cables for *analog* connections,
>>> it can be a different story, but we are *not* talking about analog
>>> connections, *only* digital ones.
>>>
>>> Bottom line: You're confused about digital versus analog
>> no, the discussion included both types. only later did it move on to a
>> specific cable type.
> No, *only you* were - implicitly - blabbering about cables for analog
> connections. As I said, *everybody else* talked about HDMI cables,
> because those were the *only* ones which were *relevant* for the "3.
> variations between DVD media" 'discussion'.
>
>>> (and lots of other things).
>> such as?
> Resistance/impedance, current, etc..
>
>>>>> - which
>>>>> isn't a big (t)ask -, you'll get what's coming. Such is life. Time to
>>>>> get over it.
>>>> and if you keep making demands of me and telling me what to do, I'll
>>>> ignore you.
>>> Promises, promises!
>> so do you want me to reply to you or not?
> I'm sure that we all - including me - would like you to keep quiet and
> not continue to make yourself look silly.
>
>> I'm happy either way.
> No you're not! You can't help yourself. That's why I said "Promises,
> promises!". Prove me wrong, by not responding, also not to others in
> this thread.
>
>> like I
>> said, if ppl want to discuss some issue that's fine. but many here can't
>> seem to do that without resorting to personal abuse and insults.
> Hmmm. You mean like you did to me!? Can you say 'PKB'!?
>
> [More self-pity deleted]
>
> [Another series of gigantic <whoosh>es deleted.]
I've tried to be reasonable with you, but you're still on with your ad
hominen bullshit, and talking nonsense, so goodbye! ( you will probably
see that as some sort of victory)
--
"As long as there is this book [Koran] there will be no peace in the world"
-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
http://www.siotw.org/
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Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 22:29 -0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:34 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:52 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:56 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:38 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:02 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:28 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-17 01:39 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:33 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:39 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:14 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:47 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:11 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:42 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:55 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 20:53 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-14 16:53 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "SG1" <Lost@the.races.com> - 2016-01-15 08:57 +1000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 10:18 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:53 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:14 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-14 23:30 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 17:28 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:00 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 22:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 00:43 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:21 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:27 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 00:33 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-15 22:52 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:29 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:32 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:58 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:27 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:42 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:16 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:35 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:55 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:57 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 09:40 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:05 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:31 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Jacko" <Jacko_ONE@bigpond.com> - 2016-01-17 09:47 +1000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 11:35 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:02 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 20:21 +1000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:07 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:16 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:45 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 10:41 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:58 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:54 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:07 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:48 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:36 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:49 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:17 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:21 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 16:28 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:33 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:18 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:39 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:15 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:18 +0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:48 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 11:18 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 14:01 +0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:06 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 21:00 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 04:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:20 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:34 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 01:14 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 02:31 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-16 19:31 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:55 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 21:27 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:11 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 21:18 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 09:09 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:12 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:40 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:37 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-19 16:19 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 12:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:00 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:03 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:12 +0000
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:48 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:13 +0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:51 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:57 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:46 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:25 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 19:05 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:04 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 17:00 +0800
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:39 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:52 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 21:57 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:30 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:50 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:22 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:25 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:16 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:23 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 14:02 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:15 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 03:03 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen harold <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 02:12 +1100
Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 11:14 +1100
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