Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen
Date	2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
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On 18-January-2016 1:18 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> felix <me@nothere.invalid> wrote:
>> On 17-January-2016 6:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
>>> Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>> I'm sorry to hear that. You see a difference and I'm sure you
>>>> understand why others find it difficult to see how the difference is
>>>> possible with a digital signal.
>>>     The problem is that we have no information whatsoever that/if the two
>>> copies were made in the exact same way.
>>>
>>>     *If* he indeed can see a difference - in a double-blind test - then
>>> there *must* be a difference in the way the copies were made or/and in
>>> the way they were reproduced.
>>>
>>>     For example he says "I tried it in a Samsung DVD player, and it
>>> wouldn't play at all!". Was that a problem with the media itself, with
>>> the media type (-R versus +R), or was it perhaps a DVD with a *file
>>> system*, containing MPEG4 files or whatever?
>>>
>>>     Was the *same* player used for (the test of) both copies? Was it
>>> *connected* in the exact same way? What *type* of connection was used?
>>> (I wouldn't be surprised at all if (one of?) the DVD-player(s) had an
>>> *analog* connection to the HTS or TV.)
>>>
>>>     Was the exact same software, with the exact same procedures, and the
>>> exact same settings/options/etc. used to make both copies?
>>>
>>>     Etc., etc. ad infinitum.
>>>
>>>     Seeing how little he knows about the subject matter, there's probably
>>> a difference somewhere which he's not telling us about, most likely
>>> because he doesn't realize/know, but possibly because he's trolling.
>> so here we go again. honestly, you ppl should be in the investigation
>> business having such suspicious natures. firstly you are confusing
>    Apparently, our "suspicious natures" are justified. Read on.
>
>> 					   firstly you are confusing
>> several matters that were/are being discussed. let me enlighten you.
>    Don't act like a arrogant pompous twat. If anyone's confused and needs
> enlightening, it's you. Read on.
>
>> 								       the
>> initial discussion was about a disc that produced a picture that didn't
>> fill the screen. that was resolved entirely, thanks to trevor actually,
>    Duh! If you think anyone was confused about that, then you're
> confused.
>
>> but led to a discussion about media, and then my claim that subtle
>> visual differences are produced depending on the DVD media used.
>> regarding the recording/playing procedure, I use an Asus burner and DVD
>> shrink and Nero to encode and burn the discs in a desktop PC, which are
>> then played in a late model Panasonic DVD player, connected via Monster
>> HDMI cable to a Yamaha AV Receiver, which upscales the signal to 1080p
>> and connects to a 58 inch Samsung Plasma TV via another Monster HDMI
>> cable. the equipment and procedure used is always the same. regarding
>> the Samsung DVD player, that is not used but is still connected, again
>> via monster HDMI cable, but directly to the TV. the audio from that is
>> fed from the TV 'optical out' to one of the Yamaha amps 'optical in'
>> sockets, possibly again via Monster cable, I don't recall.
>    So we have already at least three unknowns which you never bothered to
> mention:
>
> - Using 'DVD shrink' (cite URL) is *not* making a (direct) copy. So
>    answer the questions I raised :
>
>>>     Was the exact same software, with the exact same procedures, and the
>>> exact same settings/options/etc. used to make both copies?
> - If you would have made a *copy* of a DVD - another point which you
>    failed to mention/dispute - you would need to "encode" anything.
>
> - But - for the moment - more importantly, the Samsung was connected in
>    a *different* way than the Panasonic and you fail to mention anything
>    about the resolution of the both players.
>    With just this difference, your 'test' is apples-versus-oranges.
>
>    So your not mentioning relevant information led to this silly/useless
> back-and-forth.
>
>> 							     so I hope
>> this has now given you the information that you suggest is sadly
>> lacking, and you can now take your suspicions and speculations and shove
>> 'em! and you can now take your suspicions and speculations and shove
>> 'em!
>    It is *some*, but by no way all the information that was lacking. And
> there is no "suggest" about it. It was/is lacking and it is required
> information, period. Acting like an arrogant pompous twat only makes you
> look silly and uninformed.
>
>    Now when you reply again, give us the *full* picture (:-)) and
> *answer* the questions I raised in *this* response *and* all the
> questions I raised in my *previous* response, which you didn't bother to
> answer.
>
>>>> You could make a valuable contribution by explaining the reason either
>>>> theoretically or by digitally comparing the images.
>>>     Only the latter would be acceptable.
>>>
>>>     So if someone has a pointer to some diskcomp-like program for DVDs,
>>> that would be helpful, much more helpful than all the endless
>>> back-and-forth 'responses'.

you're still confused. read back thru the thread

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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 00:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-17 09:08 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:14 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 19:47 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 22:14 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 07:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:14 +0800
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:43 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:48 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:17 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 22:04 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:13 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.biz> - 2016-01-22 13:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:38 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:01 +0800
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-18 11:52 +0000
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 14:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 14:49 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 15:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 17:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:08 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 13:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 14:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 17:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 21:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 02:55 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-19 00:34 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:05 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 13:54 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 13:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 02:56 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-18 02:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 00:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 06:57 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-16 11:43 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen JW <none@dev.null> - 2016-01-19 06:39 -0500
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Chris <c@b.a> - 2016-01-20 10:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 03:00 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-26 16:03 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-24 09:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-24 00:51 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:39 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-27 07:38 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-29 09:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen XR8 Sprintless <xr8_sprint@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-30 01:20 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-30 07:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-30 08:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 15:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:56 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:08 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:24 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:13 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 22:29 -0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:56 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-17 01:39 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:14 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 20:53 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:00 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 09:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:31 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 20:21 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 10:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:54 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:49 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 16:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:18 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 11:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 14:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:06 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 04:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:20 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 01:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 02:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-16 19:31 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 21:27 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 21:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 09:09 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:40 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-19 16:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 12:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:03 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:12 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:13 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 19:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:04 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 17:00 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 21:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:30 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:50 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:22 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:23 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 14:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 03:03 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen harold <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 02:12 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 11:14 +1100

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