Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen

From	felix <me@nothere.invalid>
Newsgroups	aus.computers, aus.tv, aus.electronics
Subject	Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen
Date	2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
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On 17-January-2016 6:31 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> wrote:
> [...]
>> I'm sorry to hear that. You see a difference and I'm sure you
>> understand why others find it difficult to see how the difference is
>> possible with a digital signal.
>    The problem is that we have no information whatsoever that/if the two
> copies were made in the exact same way.
>
>    *If* he indeed can see a difference - in a double-blind test - then
> there *must* be a difference in the way the copies were made or/and in
> the way they were reproduced.
>
>    For example he says "I tried it in a Samsung DVD player, and it
> wouldn't play at all!". Was that a problem with the media itself, with
> the media type (-R versus +R), or was it perhaps a DVD with a *file
> system*, containing MPEG4 files or whatever?
>
>    Was the *same* player used for (the test of) both copies? Was it
> *connected* in the exact same way? What *type* of connection was used?
> (I wouldn't be surprised at all if (one of?) the DVD-player(s) had an
> *analog* connection to the HTS or TV.)
>
>    Was the exact same software, with the exact same procedures, and the
> exact same settings/options/etc. used to make both copies?
>
>    Etc., etc. ad infinitum.
>
>    Seeing how little he knows about the subject matter, there's probably
> a difference somewhere which he's not telling us about, most likely
> because he doesn't realize/know, but possibly because he's trolling.

so here we go again. honestly, you ppl should be in the investigation 
business having such suspicious natures. firstly you are confusing 
several matters that were/are being discussed. let me enlighten you. the 
initial discussion was about a disc that produced a picture that didn't 
fill the screen. that was resolved entirely, thanks to trevor actually, 
but led to a discussion about media, and then my claim that subtle 
visual differences are produced depending on the DVD media used. 
regarding the recording/playing procedure, I use an Asus burner and DVD 
shrink and Nero to encode and burn the discs in a desktop PC, which are 
then played in a late model Panasonic DVD player, connected via Monster 
HDMI cable to a Yamaha AV Receiver, which upscales the signal to 1080p 
and connects to a 58 inch Samsung Plasma TV via another Monster HDMI 
cable. the equipment and procedure used is always the same. regarding 
the Samsung DVD player, that is not used but is still connected, again 
via monster HDMI cable, but directly to the TV. the audio from that is 
fed from the TV 'optical out' to one of the Yamaha amps 'optical in' 
sockets, possibly again via Monster cable, I don't recall. so I hope 
this has now given you the information that you suggest is sadly 
lacking, and you can now take your suspicions and speculations and shove 
'em!

>
>> You could make a valuable contribution by explaining the reason either
>> theoretically or by digitally comparing the images.
>    Only the latter would be acceptable.
>
>    So if someone has a pointer to some diskcomp-like program for DVDs,
> that would be helpful, much more helpful than all the endless
> back-and-forth 'responses'.

-- 
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-William Gladstone, four times PM of Great Britain
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  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-10 09:36 +0000
    Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-11 15:11 +1100
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        Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-11 18:39 +1100
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                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 00:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-15 00:25 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 15:09 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:47 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 09:32 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 09:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 10:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:43 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:47 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-16 08:17 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:32 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-16 21:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 00:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-17 09:08 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-17 09:45 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 19:46 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 19:47 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 22:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-17 19:58 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 07:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:14 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 12:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 13:52 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 17:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-19 00:30 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:43 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:48 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 11:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 16:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 22:04 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-22 12:13 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.biz> - 2016-01-22 13:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-21 21:38 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-20 17:26 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-18 11:52 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 14:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 14:49 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 15:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 17:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 15:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 16:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 17:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:08 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 13:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 14:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 17:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 21:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 02:55 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-19 00:34 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:05 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 13:54 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-20 13:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 02:56 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-18 02:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 00:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 06:57 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-16 11:43 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen JW <none@dev.null> - 2016-01-19 06:39 -0500
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Chris <c@b.a> - 2016-01-20 10:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-21 03:00 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 11:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.invalid> - 2016-01-24 09:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-24 00:51 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 15:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:56 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:08 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:24 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 14:10 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:13 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 16:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:59 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen jonz <johnhhhinton7@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 22:29 -0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:56 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 09:38 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-17 01:39 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:47 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 15:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 20:53 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-14 16:53 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "SG1" <Lost@the.races.com> - 2016-01-15 08:57 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 10:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 10:53 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-14 23:30 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 17:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 22:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-15 00:43 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:27 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 00:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) - 2016-01-15 22:52 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:29 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:32 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 12:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 13:27 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:42 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 16:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 20:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 03:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 09:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Jacko" <Jacko_ONE@bigpond.com> - 2016-01-17 09:47 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 11:35 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen keithr <no-one@nowhere.com.au> - 2016-01-17 20:21 +1000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 09:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:45 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 10:41 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:54 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 12:07 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 11:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 13:36 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:40 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 13:49 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-17 14:17 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:21 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 16:28 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:33 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 15:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 15:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 19:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 07:18 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 11:18 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-18 14:01 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 18:06 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-16 21:00 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 04:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-16 11:20 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-16 13:34 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 01:14 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 02:31 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-16 19:31 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 07:55 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2016-01-16 21:27 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 10:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 10:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 07:11 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-17 21:18 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-18 09:09 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:12 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:40 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 11:37 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-19 16:19 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-20 12:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-20 20:00 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-21 09:19 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 09:03 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-18 08:58 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-01-18 19:12 +0000
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:48 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Clocky <notgonna@happen.com> - 2016-01-19 09:13 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-01-17 18:51 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 19:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-18 13:46 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 14:29 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 19:05 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:04 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Robert" <robert@no.email> - 2016-01-14 17:00 +0800
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-14 20:39 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:52 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-14 21:57 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 06:30 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-14 20:50 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-01-14 21:01 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 07:22 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-15 12:25 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Jeßus <j@invalid.lan> - 2016-01-15 20:16 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 13:23 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 13:44 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen Trevor <trevor@home.net> - 2016-01-17 14:02 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen felix <me@nothere.invalid> - 2016-01-17 14:15 +1100
                Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen hereford <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 03:03 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen harold <takecarebeware@gmail.com> - 2016-01-12 02:12 +1100
  Re: DVD picture doesn't fill the screen "Dechucka" <Dechucka1@hotmail.com> - 2016-01-16 11:14 +1100

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