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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

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On 4/5/17, 5:08 PM, in article lazv90g.ab@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/5/17, 1:39 PM, in article azkci893a.a@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ...
>>>>> So "duplicate" makes a duplicate but doesn't delete the original, and
>>>>> "save as" creates a copy and doesn't delete the original; but "duplicate"
>>>>> and "save as" "do different things."  Granny is confused.
>>>> 
>>>> First, with no sarcasm or insult, I commend you for admitting to an area of
>>>> computing you are ignorant about. All too often in COLA people see that as
>>>> a
>>>> weakness and refuse to do so. You have little experience with such
>>>> systems... and even if you did you still might not know.
>>>> 
>>>> But before we get to the differences, I want to make sure you realize that
>>>> we are now talking about multiple features here:
>>>> 
>>>> * Renaming a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>> * Moving a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>> * Labeling a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>> * Duplicating a file (which can be done open or not)
>>>> * Saving a file (which can only be done if open)
>>>> * Saving as a new file (which can only be done if open)
>>> 
>>> What is the difference between "duplicating" an open file and "save as"?
>> 
>> Again, happy to answer but first want to make sure you are clear of the
>> basics: NEITHER is the same as moving, renaming, or labeling of a file. That
>> is what we were discussing before you moved the topic to Duplicating vs.
>> Save / Save As.
> 
> Again, no answer.

I spoke about features A, B, and C. You moved goal posts to features D and E
(which are closely tied with F). You want to know how D and E are different.
Fine. But since you moved goal posts to those features and did so in a way
that suggested you did not understand you moved goal posts I want to make
sure you understand before we delve into your side topic.

I have asked you multiple times and you are just lost. So be it. You are
lost. 

> Just face it.  Apple screwed up an put in differently named
> menu items that do the same thing.

Nope. Not the case at all, but I accept YOU do not understand the difference
and are ignorant enough of basic file tasks where you show no understanding
you even jumped topics.

So, AGAIN, do you understand that renaming and moving and labeling a file
(what we were first talking about) are DIFFERENT features than the Saving
and Duplicating files (the topics you jumped to). If no, which it seems,
then I am happy to explain the difference. If yes, though, then we can jump
forward on your side issue.

Not putting you down for thread drift. Not putting you down for not
understanding features you do no use. But for crying out loud, if you are
going to ask questions then be open with what you do and do not know so we
do not end up in the type of circus this is becoming.




-- 
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use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 04:45 +0000
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 09:29 -0700
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 20:49 +0000
        Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:20 -0700
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