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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/4/17, 10:23 PM, in article avjz003.g@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/4/17, 8:59 PM, in article i88vz003.pvh4e2@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> ... 
>>>>>> Apple crew is just a bunch of clods.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it is good to have both available -- they do different things and
>>>>> both are of value!
>>>> 
>>>> So "duplicate" deletes the original?
>>> 
>>> Ah, another place you are lacking in common sense -- of course it does not.
>>> That is not what the word "duplicate" means and nobody suggested it should
>>> or would do such a thing.
>> 
>> So "duplicate" makes a duplicate but doesn't delete the original, and
>> "save as" creates a copy and doesn't delete the original; but "duplicate"
>> and "save as" "do different things."  Granny is confused.
> 
> First, with no sarcasm or insult, I commend you for admitting to an area of
> computing you are ignorant about. All too often in COLA people see that as a
> weakness and refuse to do so. You have little experience with such
> systems... and even if you did you still might not know.
> 
> But before we get to the differences, I want to make sure you realize that
> we are now talking about multiple features here:
> 
> * Renaming a file (which can be done open or not)
> * Moving a file (which can be done open or not)
> * Labeling a file (which can be done open or not)
> * Duplicating a file (which can be done open or not)
> * Saving a file (which can only be done if open)
> * Saving as a new file (which can only be done if open)
> 

What is the difference between "duplicating" an open file and "save as"?
That is where Granny's confusion sets in.

> In any case, we started with talking about the first three bullet points
> (especially the first two, renaming and moving) and then you changed topics
> to duplicating and saving.
> 
> ...
>>>> It's not faked.  It's very real.  And by the way that "bizarre zooming"
>>>> is xmag, which has been around since the dawn of time.  I'm surpised you
>>>> didn't recognize it.  My window manager doesn't support zooming, so I use
>>>> xmag.
>>> 
>>> I did not know the program but I saw what you did. Just bizarre zooming. Why
>>> not just, well, zoom in and show what you want to show? Do it in post
>>> production so you can stay focused on the topic.
>> 
>> I might look into that at some point, but all post production stuff is
>> probably more effort than I want to put into these things.
> 
> Fair enough... I have to keep in mind that you use a system where such
> things are not as easy. What you produce is fine and, given the limitations,
> the way you zoomed makes sense.
> 

I believe compositing window managers have a facility for zooming, but I'm
not using one of those.

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  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 20:26 -0700
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-04 04:45 +0000
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 09:29 -0700
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          Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:20 -0700
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