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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: spreadsheet ergonomics
Date	2017-04-05 08:30 -0700
Message-ID	<D50A5B8D.9CE17%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 4/4/17, 10:23 PM, in article avjz003.g@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/4/17, 8:59 PM, in article i88vz003.pvh4e2@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> ... 
>>>>> Apple crew is just a bunch of clods.
>>>> 
>>>> I think it is good to have both available -- they do different things and
>>>> both are of value!
>>> 
>>> So "duplicate" deletes the original?
>> 
>> Ah, another place you are lacking in common sense -- of course it does not.
>> That is not what the word "duplicate" means and nobody suggested it should
>> or would do such a thing.
> 
> So "duplicate" makes a duplicate but doesn't delete the original, and
> "save as" creates a copy and doesn't delete the original; but "duplicate"
> and "save as" "do different things."  Granny is confused.

First, with no sarcasm or insult, I commend you for admitting to an area of
computing you are ignorant about. All too often in COLA people see that as a
weakness and refuse to do so. You have little experience with such
systems... and even if you did you still might not know.

But before we get to the differences, I want to make sure you realize that
we are now talking about multiple features here:

* Renaming a file (which can be done open or not)
* Moving a file (which can be done open or not)
* Labeling a file (which can be done open or not)
* Duplicating a file (which can be done open or not)
* Saving a file (which can only be done if open)
* Saving as a new file (which can only be done if open)

In any case, we started with talking about the first three bullet points
(especially the first two, renaming and moving) and then you changed topics
to duplicating and saving.

...
>>> It's not faked.  It's very real.  And by the way that "bizarre zooming"
>>> is xmag, which has been around since the dawn of time.  I'm surpised you
>>> didn't recognize it.  My window manager doesn't support zooming, so I use
>>> xmag.
>> 
>> I did not know the program but I saw what you did. Just bizarre zooming. Why
>> not just, well, zoom in and show what you want to show? Do it in post
>> production so you can stay focused on the topic.
> 
> I might look into that at some point, but all post production stuff is
> probably more effort than I want to put into these things.

Fair enough... I have to keep in mind that you use a system where such
things are not as easy. What you produce is fine and, given the limitations,
the way you zoomed makes sense.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot
use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow
superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 10:53 -0700
  Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 19:38 +0000
    Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 13:01 -0700
      Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-03 20:54 +0000
        Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-03 14:16 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 14:20 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-04 19:27 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 18:54 -0700
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                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-04-05 15:25 -0700
                Re: spreadsheet ergonomics owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-04-05 22:52 +0000
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