Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-10-12 11:32 -0700
Message-ID	<D2414AC7.601AE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 10/12/15, 11:15 AM, in article d82bm8F2tp9U12@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-10, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional version
>>>>>>> is available for download.  Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't
>>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing
>>>>>> X"
>>>>> 
>>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third
>>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS
>>>>> X.  To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future
>>>>> updates...
>>>> 
>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341>
>>>>      -----
>>>>      Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to
>>>>      ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available
>>>>      versions of XQuartz.
>>>>      -----
>>> 
>>> Oops. ; )  The fact is  X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long
>>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual.
>> 
>> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-in-
>> osx-especially
> 
> You found a bug. That has little relevance to Peter Köhlmann's claim
> that: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X"

And if you click the link you can see the uncommon steps needed to recreate
this bug. Certainly not a common setup. Now compare that to the videos in my
.sig where I show KDE as it is and in a normal setup, default from the
distro.

Some of that has been fixed, but what a mess!

>> That's just a small sample.  You can Google for yourself if you're
>> hungry for more...
> 
> You can find all sorts of X11 bugs that have nothing to do with OS X,
> too.

Exactly. 

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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 19:17 -0500
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 00:23 +0000
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:26 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 20:07 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 19:13 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 10:34 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 15:51 -0500
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 16:18 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 23:48 +0000
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 19:08 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 12:53 -0500
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:02 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:50 -0600
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 19:24 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:29 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:52 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-13 17:58 +0000
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:49 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:24 -0700

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