Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-10-12 19:24 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<d82fnrF2tp9U17@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
> On 10/12/2015 1:15 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-10, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional version
>>>>>>>> is available for download.  Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't
>>>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing
>>>>>>> X"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third
>>>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS
>>>>>> X.  To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future
>>>>>> updates...
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341>
>>>>>       -----
>>>>>       Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to
>>>>>       ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available
>>>>>       versions of XQuartz.
>>>>>       -----
>>>>
>>>> Oops. ; )  The fact is  X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long
>>>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual.
>>>
>>> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-in-osx-especially
>>
>> You found a bug.
>
> I posted three bugs.  Two you snipped out.  Those weren't all I found by 
> a long shot, just all I bothered with.

And what is your point? You posted links to bugs in response to my
statement that X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long time, and that
Peter is wrong when he says "You can basically forget nearly all GUI
software needing X". If you think the existence of bugs magically
equates to X11 not working for anyone on OS X, you're being very silly.

> These are Quartz X11 bugs, which means they have everything to do with 
> OS X, in spite of your assurances to the contrary.

There are *plenty* of X11 bugs that have *nothing* to do with OS X as
well. No software is bug free. The fact that bugs exist doesn't make Peter's
asinine statement that "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software
needing X" magically become true. Keep trying to defend his indefensible
statement, though. It's entertaining at least.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 19:17 -0500
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 00:23 +0000
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:26 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 20:07 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 19:13 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 10:34 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 15:51 -0500
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 16:18 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 23:48 +0000
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 19:08 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 12:53 -0500
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:02 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:50 -0600
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 19:24 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:29 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:52 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-13 17:58 +0000
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:49 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:24 -0700

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