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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

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On 10/12/15, 12:14 PM, in article mvh0pu$k54$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
<nobody@invalid.com> wrote:

> On 10/12/2015 1:15 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>> On 2015-10-10, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> is available for download.  Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't
>>>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software
>>>>>>> needing
>>>>>>> X"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third
>>>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS
>>>>>> X.  To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future
>>>>>> updates...
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341>
>>>>>       -----
>>>>>       Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to
>>>>>       ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available
>>>>>       versions of XQuartz.
>>>>>       -----
>>>> 
>>>> Oops. ; )  The fact is  X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long
>>>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual.
>>> 
>>> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-in
>>> -osx-especially
>> 
>> You found a bug.
> 
> I posted three bugs.  Two you snipped out.  Those weren't all I found by
> a long shot, just all I bothered with.

And you showed no relevance. Oh, and did not quote the rather odd set of
circumstances needed to find your first bug. Not that such bugs should not
be fixed but they simply are off topic. Heck, look at the many bugs I have
shown on KDE. Does this mean, to you, that KDE does not work?

And, yes, I know you are going to run from that question. :)

>> That has little relevance to Peter Köhlmann's claim
>> that: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X"
> 
> It has relevance to *my* remarks, which you tried to discount with what
> you quoted.

Based on your criteria, having bugs, then you can clearly see KDE should eb
"forgotten". Time for you to flip flop!

>>> That's just a small sample.  You can Google for yourself if you're
>>> hungry for more...
>> 
>> You can find all sorts of X11 bugs that have nothing to do with OS X,
>> too.
> 
> These are Quartz X11 bugs, which means they have everything to do with
> OS X, in spite of your assurances to the contrary.

Ah, so you unlike Peter do tie XQuartz to OS X. Why not call him out on this
error of his... given how it contradicts your own claims?



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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 19:17 -0500
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 00:23 +0000
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:26 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 20:07 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 19:13 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 10:34 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 15:51 -0500
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 16:18 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 23:48 +0000
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 19:08 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 12:53 -0500
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:02 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:50 -0600
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 19:24 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:29 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:52 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-13 17:58 +0000
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:49 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:24 -0700

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