Path: csiph.com!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!news-1.dfn.de!news.dfn.de!news.informatik.hu-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Snit Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,alt.comp.freeware,comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2015 11:32:23 -0700 Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: <051020151258277615%nospam@nospam.invalid> <3ZSdnZTmLryQJ4_LnZ2dnUU7-VmdnZ2d@supernews.com> <051020151617595944%nospam@nospam.invalid> <061020151150097105%nospam@nospam.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net J4zUG2JK21AN6qdcFf+kIg6O3xp8167yGZAPkRNJnB9nGu5Y1L Cancel-Lock: sha1:4x1MvHqlv9wTJ+TpR83KDg+j31o= User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Thread-Topic: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Thread-Index: AdEFHFX4xuOGDySA20uSUvMV1Bf96w== Xref: csiph.com comp.sys.mac.system:83320 alt.comp.freeware:246244 comp.os.linux.advocacy:326419 On 10/12/15, 11:15 AM, in article d82bm8F2tp9U12@mid.individual.net, "Jolly Roger" wrote: > On 2015-10-12, Nobody wrote: >> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2015-10-10, Snit wrote: >>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional version >>>>>>> is available for download. Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't >>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing >>>>>> X" >>>>> >>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third >>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS >>>>> X. To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future >>>>> updates... >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to >>>> ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available >>>> versions of XQuartz. >>>> ----- >>> >>> Oops. ; ) The fact is X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long >>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual. >> >> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-in- >> osx-especially > > You found a bug. That has little relevance to Peter Köhlmann's claim > that: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X" And if you click the link you can see the uncommon steps needed to recreate this bug. Certainly not a common setup. Now compare that to the videos in my .sig where I show KDE as it is and in a normal setup, default from the distro. Some of that has been fixed, but what a mess! >> That's just a small sample. You can Google for yourself if you're >> hungry for more... > > You can find all sorts of X11 bugs that have nothing to do with OS X, > too. Exactly. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: * Mint KDE working with folders: * Mint KDE creating files: * Mint KDE help: * Mint KDE general navigation: * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: * OS / Word Processor Comparison: