Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store

From	Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups	comp.sys.mac.system, alt.comp.freeware, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store
Date	2015-10-12 12:29 -0700
Message-ID	<D241583C.601DD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
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On 10/12/15, 12:24 PM, in article d82fnrF2tp9U17@mid.individual.net, "Jolly
Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>> On 10/12/2015 1:15 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>> On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-10-10, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody"
>>>>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional
>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>> is available for download.  Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't
>>>>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software
>>>>>>>> needing
>>>>>>>> X"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third
>>>>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS
>>>>>>> X.  To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future
>>>>>>> updates...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341>
>>>>>>       -----
>>>>>>       Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to
>>>>>>       ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available
>>>>>>       versions of XQuartz.
>>>>>>       -----
>>>>> 
>>>>> Oops. ; )  The fact is  X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long
>>>>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual.
>>>> 
>>>> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-i
>>>> n-osx-especially
>>> 
>>> You found a bug.
>> 
>> I posted three bugs.  Two you snipped out.  Those weren't all I found by
>> a long shot, just all I bothered with.
> 
> And what is your point? You posted links to bugs in response to my
> statement that X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long time, and that
> Peter is wrong when he says "You can basically forget nearly all GUI
> software needing X". If you think the existence of bugs magically
> equates to X11 not working for anyone on OS X, you're being very silly.

His point, apparently, is that given the evidence I show in my .sig that KDE
can be forgotten about.

>> These are Quartz X11 bugs, which means they have everything to do with
>> OS X, in spite of your assurances to the contrary.
> 
> There are *plenty* of X11 bugs that have *nothing* to do with OS X as
> well. No software is bug free. The fact that bugs exist doesn't make Peter's
> asinine statement that "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software
> needing X" magically become true. Keep trying to defend his indefensible
> statement, though. It's entertaining at least.



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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-09 19:17 -0500
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-10 00:23 +0000
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:26 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 20:07 -0600
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 19:13 -0700
    Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 17:09 +0000
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 10:34 -0700
      Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 15:51 -0500
        Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 16:18 -0700
          Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-10 23:48 +0000
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-10 19:08 -0700
            Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 12:53 -0500
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:02 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:50 -0600
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 18:15 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 11:32 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-12 14:14 -0500
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:21 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-12 19:24 +0000
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-12 12:29 -0700
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:52 -0600
                Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-13 17:58 +0000
              Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:49 -0600
  Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-09 17:24 -0700

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