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On 10/12/15, 11:15 AM, in article d82bm8F2tp9U12@mid.individual.net, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2015-10-12, Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >> On 10/10/2015 6:48 PM, Jolly Roger wrote: >>> On 2015-10-10, Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>>> On 10/10/15, 1:51 PM, in article mvbto2$ouq$1@news.albasani.net, "Nobody" >>>> <nobody@invalid.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> So it isn't included in the installation, but a fully functional version >>>>>>> is available for download. Makes sense since most Mac users wouldn't >>>>>>> want or need X11 for any reason. >>>>>> >>>>>> Peter Köhlmann: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing >>>>>> X" >>>>> >>>>> You're completely overlooking X11 for Mac is now in the hands of a third >>>>> party, and has no guarantee of working with current versions of Mac OS >>>>> X. To say nothing of what will be broken by mercurial Apple with future >>>>> updates... >>>> >>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201341> >>>> ----- >>>> Apple is a contributor to the XQuartz project and has worked to >>>> ensure that X11 works as expected in OS X with the latest available >>>> versions of XQuartz. >>>> ----- >>> >>> Oops. ; ) The fact is X11 apps work in OS X, and have for a long, long >>> time now. Peter is wrong, as usual. >> >> http://blog.appsocial.ly/post/98167598243/xquartz-windows-lost-off-screen-in- >> osx-especially > > You found a bug. That has little relevance to Peter Köhlmann's claim > that: "You can basically forget nearly all GUI software needing X" And if you click the link you can see the uncommon steps needed to recreate this bug. Certainly not a common setup. Now compare that to the videos in my .sig where I show KDE as it is and in a normal setup, default from the distro. Some of that has been fixed, but what a mess! >> That's just a small sample. You can Google for yourself if you're >> hungry for more... > > You can find all sorts of X11 bugs that have nothing to do with OS X, > too. Exactly. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 11:52 -0600
Re: "Unhackable" Apple Confirms Malware-Infected Apps Found And Removed From Its Chinese App Store Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-10-13 17:58 +0000
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