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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... |
| Date | 2025-12-16 21:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6rs81mx8nk.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink) |
| References | (21 earlier) <10hjkgl$lr0$1@dont-email.me> <mq5v9sF85feU3@mid.individual.net> <CvudnTlN8fg81aP0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com> <tmn21mxjjj.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <vKacnZEe1J6iPqL0nZ2dnZfqnPWdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
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On 2025-12-15 06:57, c186282 wrote: > On 12/14/25 07:38, Carlos E.R. wrote: >> On 2025-12-14 06:18, c186282 wrote: >>> On 12/13/25 15:06, rbowman wrote: >>>> On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:00:19 -0500, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>>> Usually on a clear cut lot, there are lots and lots of >>>>> "stumps" and nobody gives a shit about those. That's why the >>>>> field in that video is suspiciously "too good to be true". >>>>> As the years pass, the stumps will rot and be digested like >>>>> normal. It's just the stumps are a hazard right after a >>>>> clear cut session. >>>> >>>> In this area, make that 'many years'. We had a bad fire in >>>> 2003 that took some areas down to mineral soil. Long after the >>>> fire stumps were still burning out the underground root >>>> systems. 22 years later you still have to be careful off trail >>>> not to step in a pit. The areas were not replanted so there >>>> are very few trees. >>> >>> This is what happened in California ... nobody was >>> allowed to dig and put out the burning roots. Two >>> weeks later and ........ >> >> What happened? > > Ummm ... missed THAT news ??? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2025_Southern_California_wildfires > > HUGE, widespread, EXPENSIVE damage and some deaths. > > Even made the Euro news. Yes, I remember there were huge fires. The most worrisome were inside the city. Unstoppable. But I still do not understand what you said about the roots. :-? ... >>>> The areas managed by the Forest Service have made out better. >>>> I've helped mark out a few timber sales. The trees to go are >>>> sprayed blue at breast height and the roots, the keepers >>>> orange. The lower paint is to keep people honest since you can >>>> tell what was cut from the stump. Often though the sale is >>>> never bid on since selective harvesting is more expensive.>>> >>> I've seen many replant areas. Yes, trees grow - but >>> the replanting puts them too close together. No sun >>> gets to the ground, it's not a complete ecosystem. >>> In the interim period there's a lot of soil erosion. >>> >> >> Here they tried putting straw on the ground to reduce erosion. > > > Um ... straw BURNS. Yes, but the fires were out. > > Also not sure it fully qualifies as 'ground-cover' in > the 'natural' sense. Proper ground-cover includes a > number of plant/mold/fungi species and a certain > inventory of insects and worms. These "pre-process" > stuff falling from the trees and blowing in from the > general environment - releasing a variety of nutrients. > The fungi also bind the soil and help hold moisture. > > > A proper forest eco-system is hard to fake. I suppose they thought the straw would help meanwhile. -- Cheers, Carlos. ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:39 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-13 07:00 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:06 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:18 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:38 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:02 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:43 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:57 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:42 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-16 16:29 -0800
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 01:24 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 06:53 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:47 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 00:51 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:46 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 02:01 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 00:58 -0600
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:46 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:22 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 13:16 -0600
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Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-22 07:35 -0500
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-23 21:31 +1100
Re: Underground fires Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-23 06:40 -0500
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-23 12:41 +0000
Re: Underground fires Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-23 21:18 +0000
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-24 20:43 +1100
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:12 +0000
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-24 20:26 +1100
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Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:04 +0000
Re: Underground fires c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-24 04:55 -0500
Re: Underground fires The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-24 13:13 +0000
Re: Underground fires Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-23 11:43 -0800
Re: Underground fires pyotr filipivich <phamp@mindspring.com> - 2025-12-24 09:04 -0800
Re: Underground fires Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-21 22:11 +1100
Re: Underground fires rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-21 20:34 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:12 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 22:48 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:16 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-12-15 01:05 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 04:22 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:17 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:01 -0500
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 21:52 +1100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:27 +0000
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:36 +0100
Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 19:53 +0000
Forests... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:45 +0100
Re: Forests... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:09 -0500
Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:24 +0000
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:38 +0000
Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:24 +0000
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Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:15 +0000
Re: Forests... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:59 -0500
Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 19:28 +0000
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