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Forests...

From "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Forests...
Date 2025-12-14 22:45 +0100
Message-ID <kpn31mxt5j.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> (permalink)
References (21 earlier) <VVmdnT_W8qSlrqf0nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com> <10hjfof$3ukif$1@dont-email.me> <cRKdnQFp8KwbrqP0nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <jjn21mxq2e.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <mq8itkFlcl8U3@mid.individual.net>

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On 2025-12-14 20:53, rbowman wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 13:36:35 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>> On 2025-12-14 04:48, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/13/25 05:39, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 11/12/2025 1:57 pm, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 12/10/25 07:12, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>> On 10/12/2025 12:03, c186282 wrote:
>>
>> ...
>>
>>>> The 'new' trees could be planted in straight lines to make harvesting
>>>> easier.
>>>
>>>     I've seen a fair number of such 're-plantations'.
>>>
>>>     However the common flaw is that, from greed, they plant the trees
>>>     TOO CLOSE to each other. No sun can reach the ground and
>>>     water/nutrients get sucked up too quickly.
>>
>> Maybe the intention is to prune the forest when that happens :-?
>> The alternative is some trees failing and leaving holes.
> 
> Several local areas have had commercial thinning and there are others that
> are marked out for a sale. They aren't plantations but areas that have
> naturally reseeded too densely. Since it's  mostly for pulp twin crowns
> and other odd trees get cut. The sales aren't that popular since the
> contracts include taking out the understory and not tearing up the area.
> The real goal is reducing the fire hazard.
> 
> Trump was criticized for his remark about 'raking the forests' but it's
> essentially raking the forests.
> 
> When I was with the Forest Service there was a young German guy on some
> sort of exchange program. He was appalled. In Germany a forester is
> responsible for a very small tract by US standards and just about knows
> every tree by name. In the US the foresters often work from aerial photos
> and never set a boot on the ground.

:-))


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.
ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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  Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 22:26 -0500
    Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:59 +0000
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 15:03 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:48 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2025-12-10 17:32 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 18:39 +0000
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 04:12 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 00:29 -0500
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:28 +0000
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:42 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:37 +0000
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 22:29 -0500
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      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:12 +0000
    Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-10 22:32 +1100
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        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:02 +0100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-10 23:00 -0600
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                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:58 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 13:54 +0100
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                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-13 20:40 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:42 +0000
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                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 19:46 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 23:52 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:17 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:02 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:32 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:49 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-15 05:18 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:36 +0100
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:27 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:14 +1100
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 10:58 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:44 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:10 +1100
    Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:23 +0100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 13:38 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:22 +1100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:31 -0500
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:10 +0100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 23:40 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-12 03:35 +0100
  Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-10 03:30 +0000
    Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-09 23:09 -0500
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:03 +0000
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:37 +0100
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-10 10:09 -0500
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-11 21:43 +1100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:17 +0100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 18:39 +0000
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        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:16 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 07:03 -0500
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:05 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:11 +0000
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              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:37 +0000
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                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:23 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:33 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 14:03 -0800
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:12 +0000
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 21:57 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-13 21:39 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-13 07:00 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-13 20:06 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 00:18 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:38 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 20:02 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:43 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 00:57 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-16 21:42 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-16 16:29 -0800
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 01:09 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-17 01:24 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 06:53 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:47 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-17 00:51 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-18 22:46 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 02:01 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 00:58 -0600
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:46 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-19 08:22 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-19 13:16 -0600
                Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-19 22:28 +0100
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                Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 13:15 +0100
                Re: Underground fires Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-20 12:14 -0500
                Re: Underground fires "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-20 19:46 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-19 02:12 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-13 22:48 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 09:16 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Robert Riches <spamtrap42@jacob21819.net> - 2025-12-15 01:05 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 04:22 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:27 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-15 19:17 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-14 22:01 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-15 21:52 +1100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:27 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 13:36 +0100
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-14 19:53 +0000
                Forests... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-14 22:45 +0100
                Re: Forests... Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-12-14 23:09 -0500
                Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:24 +0000
                Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 23:38 +0000
                Re: Forests... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 10:48 +0000
                Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:24 +0000
                Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 18:59 +0000
                Re: Forests... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 21:31 +1100
                Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-16 19:15 +0000
                Re: Forests... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-15 02:59 -0500
                Re: Forests... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 19:28 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 12:13 +0000
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 22:22 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:17 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-11 05:00 -0500
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 22:14 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-12 11:35 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-12 18:21 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 17:51 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-15 20:39 +0000
                Wood "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 19:50 +0100
            Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:49 +0100
              Re: Garbage bags knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-12-10 10:10 -0500
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:58 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:46 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:02 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:30 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> - 2025-12-12 02:58 -0600
                Re: Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:28 +0100
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:42 +0000
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                Re: Trails, Dogshit and Plastic in Nature "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:14 +0100
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 20:20 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:22 +0100
              Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 16:47 +0000
              Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:44 +0000
              Re: Garbage bags c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> - 2025-12-10 23:51 -0500
                Re: Garbage bags The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-11 09:24 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 21:48 +0000
                Re: Garbage bags Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> - 2025-12-11 13:56 -0800
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-10 14:44 +0100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-12-10 21:26 +0000
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 02:30 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 12:37 +0100
              Dogshit and bags Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> - 2025-12-11 14:05 +0000
                Re: Dogshit and bags "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 20:16 +0100
                Re: Dogshit and bags rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 20:08 +0000
                Re: Dogshit and bags Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> - 2025-12-12 09:09 +1100
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-12-11 19:46 +0000
                Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2025-12-11 22:27 +0100
      Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-10 11:08 +0000
        Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-14 22:23 +1100
          Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 18:19 +0000
            Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-12-16 23:13 +1100
              Re: Shopping carts, baskets, bags... The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-16 14:29 +0000

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