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Re: Underground fires

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Underground fires
Date 2025-12-24 13:12 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <10igorq$1086g$13@dont-email.me> (permalink)
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On 24/12/2025 09:43, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 23/12/2025 11:41 pm, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 23/12/2025 11:40, Paul wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12/23/2025 5:31 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 22/12/2025 11:35 pm, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 12/22/25 05:46, Daniel70 wrote:
> 
> <Snip>
> 
>>>>>> Funny you should conclude like that. I've wondered why 'they' don't
>>>>>> just load all this stuff into rockets and send it on its merry way
>>>>>> into The Sun.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, rocket launches do, occasionally, stuff up but then nothings
>>>>>> perfect!! i.e. Chernobyl disaster!!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.technowize.com/how-much-does-a-spacex-rocket-cost-falcon-9-vs-nasas-bill/
>>>>> $2700 per pound into low earth orbit on a Falcon-9
>>>>>
>>>>> $70,000 on a NASA rocket.
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, sure, but they are 'precision' type missions ... The rocket 
>>>> MUST be
>>>> somewhere at a precise time and make it back (hopefully) in one piece.
>>>>
>>>> A 'one way' mission to the Sun .... just sort of aim it in the general
>>>> direction and (once it's got, what, a quarter of the way there) just 
>>>> let
>>>> it (via Gravity) fall into The Sun. Job done.
>>>
>>> Apparently, the garbage-to-Sun trajectory isn't all that easy.
>>>
>>> Jupiter might be an easier target.
>>>
>>> Once you're out of the gravity well, it does not matter where
>>> the garbage goes, right ? The cloud cover over Jupiter, will hide
>>> all the beer cans and Glad Garbage Bags.
>>>
>>> And a lot of research work has already gone into this. From 1969.
>>>
>>>     "Winnipeg Tribune photographer Frank Chalmers set up this image 
>>> for the newspaper in November 1969."
>>> https://i.cbc.ca/ais/1.5725255,1600527189000/full/max/0/default.jpg?im=Crop%2Crect%3D%280%2C17%2C620%2C348%29%3BResize%3D1280
>>> You can see they've carefully considered the optimal design for 
>>> garbage disposal. "Orbit".
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>
>> I prefer the method used by Bill, the Galactic Hero,  who used free 
>> government postage and the Galactic Census to mail it to far flung 
>> corners of the galaxy where they don't have any stuff at all.
>>
>> He crucified Heinlein with that one....
>>
> Voyager 1 was launched Sept 5, 1977 and is the only man made craft to 
> have (almost??) left Our Solar System, so good luck with getting 
> anything to the other side of Our Galaxy.

C'mon now. Heinlein wrote 'Starship Troopers' so Harry Harrison spoofed 
it with 'Bill, the Galactic Hero'.

It was a parody on the mindless evolution of the System, that grinds men 
up and spits them out all the time talking of Glorious Causes.

Heinleins Glorious Causes become exercises in pointless wars against an 
enemy that no one has seen for generations. And may not even still exist.

Bill finally turns the System back on itself, by using his free 
government postage to anywhere in the galaxy, to rid earth of its waste.

It is reminiscent of  Spinrad's 'The Iron Dream' - a parody of 'Mein 
Kampf' , written (allegedly) as a bad pulp fiction SF in the 1920s by 
one A Hitler, who emigrated from Germany just after WWI...


-- 
“The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false face for the 
urge to rule it.”
– H. L. Mencken

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