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Re: Underground fires

From The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.misc, alt.comp.os.windows-11
Subject Re: Underground fires
Date 2025-12-23 12:41 +0000
Organization A little, after lunch
Message-ID <10ie2ll$8sh1$4@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (21 earlier) <HuqcnVSvhLMPytX0nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <10ib7j7$3ela0$1@dont-email.me> <cEqdnSSjc8OyptT0nZ2dnZfqn_adnZ2d@giganews.com> <10idr2p$6o5s$1@dont-email.me> <10idv2o$7ufl$1@dont-email.me>

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On 23/12/2025 11:40, Paul wrote:
> On Tue, 12/23/2025 5:31 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 22/12/2025 11:35 pm, c186282 wrote:
>>> On 12/22/25 05:46, Daniel70 wrote:
>>>> On 22/12/2025 7:24 am, c186282 wrote:
>>>>> On 12/20/25 07:15, Carlos E.R. wrote:
>>
>> <Snip>
>>
>>>>>> Wow, they even gave names to peculiar compounds in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are orgs that can live in almost any environment. However
>>>>> just because they can 'eat' compounds does not mean the ultimate
>>>>> products, or poop, aren't still toxic as all hell to humans.
>>>>>
>>>>> We LIKE to think of 'chemical contamination' as LOCAL issues.
>>>>> However that stuff DOES travel and winds up everywhere. Not
>>>>> necessarily so much in a year ... but 20, 50, 100+ years ?
>>>>> "Chemical industries" started in the early 1800s by and large.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's on the land, it's in the sea, it's in the air. More and more
>>>>> every year. Some VERY creative catalytic compounds and engineered
>>>>> biologicals are going to be required to render that stuff 'safe'
>>>>> - and it'll take another century or two. What does it do to us
>>>>> and lots of other life in the meanwhile ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh well, the space aliens will surely beam it all away for us ...
>>>>> right ?
>>>>>
>>>> Funny you should conclude like that. I've wondered why 'they' don't
>>>> just load all this stuff into rockets and send it on its merry way
>>>> into The Sun.
>>>>
>>>> Sure, rocket launches do, occasionally, stuff up but then nothings
>>>> perfect!! i.e. Chernobyl disaster!!
>>>
>>> https://www.technowize.com/how-much-does-a-spacex-rocket-cost-falcon-9-vs-nasas-bill/
>>>
>>> $2700 per pound into low earth orbit on a Falcon-9
>>>
>>> $70,000 on a NASA rocket.
>>>
>> Yes, sure, but they are 'precision' type missions ... The rocket MUST be
>> somewhere at a precise time and make it back (hopefully) in one piece.
>>
>> A 'one way' mission to the Sun .... just sort of aim it in the general
>> direction and (once it's got, what, a quarter of the way there) just let
>> it (via Gravity) fall into The Sun. Job done.
> 
> Apparently, the garbage-to-Sun trajectory isn't all that easy.
> 
> Jupiter might be an easier target.
> 
> Once you're out of the gravity well, it does not matter where
> the garbage goes, right ? The cloud cover over Jupiter, will hide
> all the beer cans and Glad Garbage Bags.
> 
> And a lot of research work has already gone into this. From 1969.
> 
>     "Winnipeg Tribune photographer Frank Chalmers set up this image for the newspaper in November 1969."
> 
>      https://i.cbc.ca/ais/1.5725255,1600527189000/full/max/0/default.jpg?im=Crop%2Crect%3D%280%2C17%2C620%2C348%29%3BResize%3D1280
> 
> You can see they've carefully considered the optimal design for garbage disposal. "Orbit".
> 
>     Paul

I prefer the method used by Bill, the Galactic Hero,  who used free 
government postage and the Galactic Census to mail it to far flung 
corners of the galaxy where they don't have any stuff at all.

He crucified Heinlein with that one....

-- 
"Nature does not give up the winter because people dislike the cold."

― Confucius

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