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Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT'

From	Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups	sci.physics.relativity
Subject	Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT'
Date	2022-03-17 08:54 +0100
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Am 14.03.2022 um 21:00 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:
>
>
> Den 14.03.2022 11:00, skrev Thomas Heger:
>> <snip>
>
> You have snipped everything of importance
> and only made a few irrelevant comments.
>
> So let's start again.
> Please don't clutter it up with irrelevant comments.
>
> Answer the questions only.
>
> Let us have a large area with a constant vertical magnetic field B⃗.

No!

I have already written, that a magnet at the center of system K should 
be assumed as finite material magnet at that spot.

Such a real finite magnet would produce a inhomogenous field round his 
exterior.
> Let the velocity v⃗(t) of the electron be horizontal.
No!!

the orientation of the axes x,y and z cannot be related to 'vertical', 
because in SRT we have no Earth.

> We will assume that the electron all the time is in this area.

No!!!

If the electron approaches along the x-axes with constant velocity, it 
cannot possibly start within the magnetic field, because otherwise the 
velocity would not be constant.

> The force  F⃗(t) on the electron will be:
>    F⃗(t) = -ε⋅(v⃗(t) X B⃗)/c  (CGS units)                   (1)

Why do you want to use that outdated cgs-system and the obscure unit 
'Franklin'?

> where  -ε = electron charge = -4.8032674e-10 Franklin

That seems to be roughly correct, but I actually cannot recall the exact 
value for charge of the electron in Franklin. But it was in that range.

But as far as I know Einstein didn't consider the real electron, because 
he didn't know about such particles (someone wrote that recently here in 
this forum).

His term adressed something else: a test probe charged with one Franklin.

> The acceleration of the electron will be:
>    a⃗(t) =  F⃗(t)/(m⋅γ(t)) = -(ε/c)⋅(v⃗(t) X B⃗)/(m⋅γ(t))      (2)

With 'B' you apparently mean 'magnetic field'??

If so, you should consider, that fields are three-dimensional.

Einstein used 'N' in this case. and N is actually the vector component 
of the field strength vector in the z-direction.

such vector components are actually numbers, because the coordinate 
system contains the unit, not the vector component.

But B is not a number.

> where γ(t) = 1/√(1−v(t)²/c²) and m = electron mass

it is conceptionally difficult to ascribe mass to a point.

The term 'electron' should be understood as location of a certain state, 
not as a material object.

Otherwise I would agree, but would think more in terms of electric 
fields, rather than in your scenario, which resembles newtonian mechanics.
>
> Question #1:
> ------------
> Do you understand that equation (2) is correct?
> If not, explain exactly what is wrong, and show what
> you think the equation should be.
>

I never do that, because I'm happy with finding errors in the text under 
consideration. This text was Einstein's 'On the electrodynamics of 
moving bodies'.

I do not attempt to find correct equations instead of the wrong ones, 
because I'm not the author of the text in question.

>
> Since a⃗(t) and F⃗(t) always are parallel, we can equally
> well write the equation:
>    -a(t) = ε⋅v(t)⋅B⋅√(1−v(t)²/c²)/m⋅c = v(t)²/R(t)        (3)
> where a(t) = |a⃗(t)| , v(t) = |v⃗(t)| and B = |B⃗|

I wanted to express my oppinion, that the meant situation would require 
a 3d-vector equation, while the actual equation contains only magnitudes.

That would be justified, if you want to figure out a single value, which 
was apparently the radius of curvature of the electron's path.


But single points do not have curvature.



>
> Question #2:
> ------------
> Do you understand that no information from (2) is lost in (3)?
> If you think that some information is lost, explain exactly what.
>
>
>    R(t) = (mc²/ε)⋅((v(t)/c)/√(1−v(t)²/c²))⋅(1/B)         (4)
>
>    Note that R(t) = constant⋅v(t)⋅γ(t)
>
> Question #3:
> ------------
> Do you understand that the curvature radius R is known
> at any point on the trajectory where the speed is known?
> If not, what do you think the R should be when v is known?
>
>
> Let's review Einstein's equations and compare them
> to equation (3) and (4) above.
>
> Einstein used a Cartesian coordinates where the F⃗ and
> thus the acceleration was parallel to the y-axis, v⃗ was
> parallel to the x-axis and B⃗ was parallel to the z-axis.
>
> -d²y/dt² = ε⋅v⋅B⋅√(1−v²/c²)/m⋅c = v²/R    (5)
>
> Since we know that the acceleration along the y-axis
> will make the velocity bend away from the x-axis
> and the acceleration will bend away from the y-axis
> equation (5) will be strictly valid only at the instant
> when v⃗ is parallel to the x-axis.
>
> R = (mc²/ε)⋅((v/c)/√(1−v²/c²))⋅(1/B)      (6)
>
> Question #4:
> ------------
> Do you understand that even if (5) is strictly valid at
> one instant, (6) is still generally valid so we can
> find the curvature radius R at any point of the trajectory
> when the the speed is known?
>
> If not, please show what you think the function R = f(v) should be.
>

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                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-19 15:14 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-19 21:31 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-20 22:38 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-03-20 22:23 +0000
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-21 08:56 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-21 11:52 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Maciej Wozniak <maluwozniak@gmail.com> - 2022-03-21 04:43 -0700
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-21 21:26 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-22 22:40 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-23 09:55 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-23 11:19 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-24 08:54 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-24 15:00 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-25 08:25 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' "Paul B. Andersen" <paul.b.andersen@paulba.no> - 2022-03-25 15:15 +0100
                Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Takabe Matsumura <tamu@frdesn.jp> - 2022-03-24 17:35 +0000
      Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Richard Hachel <r.hachel@tiscali.fr> - 2022-03-14 12:18 +0000
        Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-15 08:24 +0100
        Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Python <python@example.invalid> - 2022-03-15 17:17 +0100
          Re: New rewritten version of 'annotated version of SRT' Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2022-03-22 09:36 +0100

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